From: Daniel Gomez <dagmcr@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: disable large folios for shmem file used by xfs xfile
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:30:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPsT6hkQixVvvE94Rjop-7jOXi3FOMfv8BOFhxYLWUs906x2CQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZZ64/F/yeSymOCcI@casper.infradead.org>
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 4:35 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:28:22PM +0200, Joonas Lahtinen wrote:
> > Quoting Joonas Lahtinen (2024-01-10 17:20:24)
> > > However we specifically pass "huge=within_size" to vfs_kern_mount when
> > > creating a private mount of tmpfs for the purpose of i915 created
> > > allocations.
> > >
> > > Older hardware also had some address hashing bugs where 2M aligned
> > > memory caused a lot of collisions in TLB so we don't enable it always.
> > >
> > > You can see drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gemfs.c function
> > > i915_gemfs_init for details and references.
> > >
> > > So in short, functionality wise we should be fine either default
> > > for using 2M pages or not. If they become the default, we'd probably
> > > want an option that would still be able to prevent them for performance
> > > regression reasons on older hardware.
> >
> > To maybe write out my concern better:
> >
> > Is there plan to enable huge pages by default in shmem?
>
> Not in the next kernel release, but eventually the plan is to allow
> arbitrary order folios to be used in shmem. So you could ask it to create
> a 256kB folio for you, if that's the right size to manage memory in.
>
> How shmem and its various users go about choosing the right size is not
> quite clear to me yet. Perhaps somebody else will do it before I get
> to it; I have a lot of different sub-projects to work on at the moment,
> and shmem isn't blocking any of them. And I have a sneaking suspicion
> that more work is needed in the swap code to deal with arbitrary order
> folios, so that's another reason for me to delay looking at this ;-)
I have sent large folios support for shmem for the write and fallocate
path some releases ago. The main problem I was facing was a current
upstream problem with huge pages when seeking holes/data (fstests
generic/285 and generic/436). The strategy suggested was to use large
folios in an opportunistic way based on the file size. This hit the
same problem we currently have with huge pages and I considered that a
regression. We have made some progress to fix seeking in huge pages
upstream but is not yet finished. I can send the patches tomorrow for
further discussion.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-11 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-10 9:21 Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-10 9:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: add a mapping_clear_large_folios helper Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-10 9:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] xfs: disable large folio support in xfile_create Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-10 17:55 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-10 20:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-11 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2024-01-11 22:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-12 2:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-02-08 1:56 ` Andrew Morton
2024-02-08 16:03 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-10 12:37 ` disable large folios for shmem file used by xfs xfile Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-10 15:20 ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-01-10 15:28 ` Joonas Lahtinen
2024-01-10 15:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-11 21:30 ` Daniel Gomez [this message]
2024-01-10 16:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20240110073843.d663fa6610785a8611b2cebe@linux-foundation.org>
2024-01-10 16:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
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