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From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/15] mm: introduce execmem_alloc() and execmem_free()
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:13:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW4au6v8k8Ab7Ff6Yj64rGvZ7wkz=Xrgh8ZZtLyscpChqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZiE91CJcNw7gBj9g@kernel.org>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 8:37 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
[...]
> >
> > Is +/- 2G enough for all realistic use cases? If so, I guess we don't
> > really need
> > EXECMEM_ANYWHERE below?
> >
> > > >
> > > > * I'm not sure about BPF's requirements; it seems happy doing the same as
> > > >   modules.
> > >
> > > BPF are happy with vmalloc().
> > >
> > > > So if we *must* use a common execmem allocator, what we'd reall want is our own
> > > > types, e.g.
> > > >
> > > >       EXECMEM_ANYWHERE
> > > >       EXECMEM_NOPLT
> > > >       EXECMEM_PREL32
> > > >
> > > > ... and then we use those in arch code to implement module_alloc() and friends.
> > >
> > > I'm looking at execmem_types more as definition of the consumers, maybe I
> > > should have named the enum execmem_consumer at the first place.
> >
> > I think looking at execmem_type from consumers' point of view adds
> > unnecessary complexity. IIUC, for most (if not all) archs, ftrace, kprobe,
> > and bpf (and maybe also module text) all have the same requirements.
> > Did I miss something?
>
> It's enough to have one architecture with different constrains for kprobes
> and bpf to warrant a type for each.
>

AFAICT, some of these constraints can be changed without too much work.

> Where do you see unnecessary complexity?
>
> > IOW, we have
> >
> > enum execmem_type {
> >         EXECMEM_DEFAULT,
> >         EXECMEM_TEXT,
> >         EXECMEM_KPROBES = EXECMEM_TEXT,
> >         EXECMEM_FTRACE = EXECMEM_TEXT,
> >         EXECMEM_BPF = EXECMEM_TEXT,      /* we may end up without
> > _KPROBE, _FTRACE, _BPF */
> >         EXECMEM_DATA,  /* rw */
> >         EXECMEM_RO_DATA,
> >         EXECMEM_RO_AFTER_INIT,
> >         EXECMEM_TYPE_MAX,
> > };
> >
> > Does this make sense?
>
> How do you suggest to deal with e.g. riscv that has separate address spaces
> for modules, kprobes and bpf?

IIUC, modules and bpf use the same address space on riscv, while kprobes use
vmalloc address. I haven't tried this yet, but I think we can let
kprobes use the
same space as modules and bpf, which is:

ffffffff00000000 |  -4     GB | ffffffff7fffffff |    2 GB | modules, BPF

Did I get this right?

Thanks,
Song


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11 16:00 [PATCH v4 00/15] mm: jit/text allocator Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] arm64: module: remove uneeded call to kasan_alloc_module_shadow() Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] mips: module: rename MODULE_START to MODULES_VADDR Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] nios2: define virtual address space for modules Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] module: make module_memory_{alloc,free} more self-contained Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] mm: introduce execmem_alloc() and execmem_free() Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 19:42   ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-04-14  6:53     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-12  9:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-14  6:54     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-15 16:51     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15 17:36     ` Mark Rutland
2024-04-16  7:22       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-17 23:32         ` Song Liu
2024-04-18 15:35           ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-18 16:13             ` Song Liu [this message]
2024-04-18 17:52               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-18 21:01                 ` Song Liu
2024-04-19  6:55                   ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:54                     ` Song Liu
2024-04-19 17:02                       ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 17:32                         ` Song Liu
2024-04-19 19:59                           ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 21:42                             ` Song Liu
2024-04-20  4:22                               ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-20  9:11                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-22 18:32                                   ` Song Liu
2024-04-17 21:06   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] mm/execmem, arch: convert simple overrides of module_alloc to execmem Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 20:53   ` Sam Ravnborg
2024-04-14  7:26     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  8:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] mm/execmem, arch: convert remaining " Mike Rapoport
2024-04-15  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] arm64: extend execmem_info for generated code allocations Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] riscv: extend execmem_params " Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] powerpc: extend execmem_params for kprobes allocations Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] arch: make execmem setup available regardless of CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] x86/ftrace: enable dynamic ftrace without CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] powerpc: use CONFIG_EXECMEM instead of CONFIG_MODULES where appropiate Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] kprobes: remove dependency on CONFIG_MODULES Mike Rapoport
2024-04-17 21:16   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-18 15:37     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:49     ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-19 15:59       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-20  7:33         ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-20  9:15           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-20 10:52             ` Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 16:00 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] bpf: remove CONFIG_BPF_JIT dependency on CONFIG_MODULES of Mike Rapoport
2024-04-11 18:00 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] mm: jit/text allocator Kent Overstreet
2024-04-11 19:45 ` Luis Chamberlain

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