From: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: intorduce __GFP_UNMAPPED and unmapped_alloc()
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 12:03:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW4Mm8z4kbVo8-sPU=QL2B1Sb32ZO7teWT8qienGNuxaeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW6B3O_kWjWwr+UfYO3WRkznFqBNtcecFCSECBSiZBJDsA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:47 AM Song Liu <song@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 10:24 AM Kent Overstreet
> <kent.overstreet@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 10:00:39AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 9:48 AM Kent Overstreet
> > > <kent.overstreet@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 09:33:20AM -0700, Song Liu wrote:
> > > > > I am working on patches based on the discussion in [1]. I am planning to
> > > > > send v1 for review in a week or so.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Song, I was reviewing that thread too,
> > > >
> > > > Are you taking a different approach based on Thomas's feedback? I think
> > > > he had some fair points in that thread.
> > >
> > > Yes, the API is based on Thomas's suggestion, like 90% from the discussions.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > My own feeling is that the buddy allocator is our tool for allocating
> > > > larger variable sized physically contiguous allocations, so I'd like to
> > > > see something based on that - I think we could do a hybrid buddy/slab
> > > > allocator approach, like we have for regular memory allocations.
> > >
> > > I am planning to implement the allocator based on this (reuse
> > > vmap_area logic):
> >
> > Ah, you're still doing vmap_area approach.
> >
> > Mike's approach looks like it'll be _much_ lighter weight and higher
> > performance, to me. vmalloc is known to be slow compared to the buddy
> > allocator, and with Mike's approach we're only modifying mappings once
> > per 2 MB chunk.
> >
> > I don't see anything in your code for sub-page sized allocations too, so
> > perhaps I should keep going with my slab allocator.
>
> The vmap_area approach handles sub-page allocations. In 5/5 of set [2],
> we showed that multiple BPF programs share the same page with some
> kernel text (_etext).
>
> > Could you share your thoughts on your approach vs. Mike's? I'm newer to
> > this area of the code than you two so maybe there's an angle I've missed
> > :)
>
> AFAICT, tree based solution (vmap_area) is more efficient than bitmap
> based solution.
>
> First, for 2MiB page with 64B chunk size, we need a bitmap of
> 2MiB / 64B = 32k bit = 4k bytes
> While the tree based solution can adapt to the number of allocations within
> This 2MiB page. Also, searching a free range within 4kB of bitmap may
> actually be slower than searching in the tree.
>
> Second, bitmap based solution cannot handle > 2MiB allocation cleanly,
> while tree based solution can. For example, if a big driver uses 3MiB, the
> tree based allocator can allocate 4MiB for it, and use the rest 1MiB for
> smaller allocations.
Missed one:
Third, bitmap based solution requires a "size" parameter in free(). It is an
overhead for the user. Tree based solution doesn't have this issue.
Thanks,
Song
>
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20221107223921.3451913-6-song@kernel.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-18 19:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-08 9:41 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Prototype for direct map awareness in page allocator Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: intorduce __GFP_UNMAPPED and unmapped_alloc() Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09 1:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 14:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09 15:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 6:31 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-03-09 15:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-24 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-25 6:38 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-27 13:43 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-27 14:31 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-27 15:10 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28 6:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-28 7:39 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28 15:11 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-28 15:24 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-29 7:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-29 8:13 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-30 5:13 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-30 8:11 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28 17:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-28 17:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-28 17:52 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-28 17:55 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-18 3:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 15:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-18 16:33 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 16:48 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 17:00 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 17:23 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 18:47 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:03 ` Song Liu [this message]
2023-05-18 19:15 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 20:03 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 20:13 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 20:51 ` Song Liu
2023-05-19 1:24 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19 15:08 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:16 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19 8:29 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 15:42 ` Song Liu
2023-05-22 22:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:47 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19 16:14 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 16:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 16:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 17:15 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 17:25 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 18:54 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:01 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-03-08 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/unmapped_alloc: add debugfs file similar to /proc/pagetypeinfo Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/unmapped_alloc: add shrinker Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] EXPERIMENTAL: x86: use __GFP_UNMAPPED for modele_alloc() Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09 1:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-08 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] EXPERIMENTAL: mm/secretmem: use __GFP_UNMAPPED Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09 1:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Prototype for direct map awareness in page allocator Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 15:14 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 15:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-19 16:24 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 18:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25 20:37 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-10 7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-03-27 14:27 ` Mike Rapoport
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