From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: jonathan.cameron@huawei.com
Cc: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] doc/vm: New documentation for memory performance
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 08:12:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jtf8guXutLKnHt9UbyS0-sEZ5pVJfse49xe3gCCkW8dQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181115125909.000067aa@huawei.com>
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:59 AM Jonathan Cameron
<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:49:16 -0700
> Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com> wrote:
[..]
> > +The kernel does not provide performance attributes for non-local memory
> > +initiators. The performance characteristics the kernel provides for
> > +the local initiators are exported are as follows::
> > +
> > + # tree /sys/devices/system/node/nodeY/initiator_access
> > + /sys/devices/system/node/nodeY/initiator_access
> > + |-- read_bandwidth
> > + |-- read_latency
> > + |-- write_bandwidth
> > + `-- write_latency
> > +
> > +The bandwidth attributes are provided in MiB/second.
> > +
> > +The latency attributes are provided in nanoseconds.
> > +
> > +See also: https://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/ACPI_6_2.pdf
>
> My worry here is we are explicitly making an interface that is only ever
> providing "local" node information, where local node is not the best
> defined thing in the world for complex topologies.
>
> I have no problem with that making a sensible starting point for providing
> information userspace knows what to do with, just with an interface that
> in of itself doesn't make that clear.
>
> Perhaps something as simple as
> /sys/devices/system/nodeY/local_initiatorX
> /sys/devices/system/nodeX/local_targetY
>
> That leaves us the option of coming along later and having a full listing
> when a userspace requirement has become clear. Another option would
> be an exhaustive list of all initiator / memory pairs that exist, with
> an additional sysfs file giving a list of those that are nearest
> to avoid every userspace program having to do the search.
I worry that "local" is an HMAT specific concept when all it is in
actuality is a place for platform firmware to list the "best" or
"primary" access initiators. How about "initiator_classX" with some
documentation that the 0th class captures this primary initiator set.
That leaves the interface a straightforward way to add more classes in
the future, but with no strict association to the class number.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-10 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-14 22:49 [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] node: Add heterogenous memory performance Keith Busch
2018-11-19 3:35 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:46 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-22 13:22 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-27 7:00 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:42 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:44 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] doc/vm: New documentation for " Keith Busch
2018-11-15 12:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-12-10 16:12 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-11-20 13:51 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-20 15:31 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] node: Add memory caching attributes Keith Busch
2018-11-15 0:40 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-19 4:14 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 23:06 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-22 13:29 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-26 15:14 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-26 19:53 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] doc/vm: New documentation for memory cache Keith Busch
2018-11-15 0:41 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-15 13:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-11-20 13:53 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] acpi: Create subtable parsing infrastructure Keith Busch
2018-11-19 9:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-19 18:36 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] acpi/hmat: Parse and report heterogeneous memory Keith Busch
2018-11-15 13:57 ` [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-15 14:59 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-15 17:50 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19 3:04 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-15 20:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-16 18:32 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19 3:15 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:49 ` Keith Busch
2018-12-04 15:43 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2018-12-04 16:54 ` Keith Busch
2018-11-16 22:55 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19 2:52 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 2:46 ` Anshuman Khandual
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=CAPcyv4jtf8guXutLKnHt9UbyS0-sEZ5pVJfse49xe3gCCkW8dQ@mail.gmail.com \
--to=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
--cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=jonathan.cameron@huawei.com \
--cc=keith.busch@intel.com \
--cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=rafael@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox