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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	david <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] mm, dax: add VM_DAX flag for DAX VMAs
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 10:01:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jTw3cXpmmJRh7t16Xy2uYofDe+fJ+X_jnz+Q=o0uGneg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160915082615.GA9772@lst.de>

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:26 AM, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:54:38PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> The DAX property, page cache bypass, of a VMA is only detectable via the
>> vma_is_dax() helper to check the S_DAX inode flag.  However, this is
>> only available internal to the kernel and is a property that userspace
>> applications would like to interrogate.
>
> They have absolutely no business knowing such an implementation detail.

Hasn't that train already left the station with FS_XFLAG_DAX?

The other problem with hiding the DAX property is that it turns out to
not be a transparent acceleration feature.  See xfs/086 xfs/088
xfs/089 xfs/091 which fail with DAX and, as far as I understand, it is
due to the fact that DAX disallows delayed allocation behavior.

If behavior changes I think we should indicate that to userspace and
VM_DAX is certainly more useful to userspace than some of the other vm
internals we already export in those flags.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-15 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-15  6:54 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm, dax: export dax capabilities and mapping size info to userspace Dan Williams
2016-09-15  6:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm, dax: add VM_SYNC flag for device-dax VMAs Dan Williams
2016-09-15  6:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm, dax: add VM_DAX flag for DAX VMAs Dan Williams
2016-09-15  8:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-15 17:01     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2016-09-15 17:09       ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-09-15 17:44         ` Dan Williams
2016-09-15 23:07       ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-15 23:19         ` Dan Williams
2016-09-16  0:16         ` Dan Williams
2016-09-16  1:24           ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-16  2:04             ` Dan Williams
2016-09-16  3:41               ` Dan Williams
2016-09-16  5:36               ` Dave Chinner
2016-09-16 10:47                 ` Dan Williams
2016-09-15  6:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm, mincore2(): retrieve tlb-size attributes of an address range Dan Williams

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