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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memory_hotplug: Fix remove_memory() lockdep splat
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:27:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iiYtN6iGt=rVuNR=O=H9YcY1b1yWp+5TuDhu0QoVqT_A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516aa930-9b64-b377-557c-5413ed9fe336@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:42 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 10.01.20 18:39, Dan Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:36 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10.01.20 18:33, Dan Williams wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:29 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> [..]
> >>>>> So then the comment is actively misleading for that case. I would
> >>>>> expect an explicit _unlocked path for that case with a comment about
> >>>>> why it's special. Is there already a comment to that effect somewhere?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> __add_memory() - the locked variant - is called from the same ACPI location
> >>>> either locked or unlocked. I added a comment back then after a longe
> >>>> discussion with Michal:
> >>>>
> >>>> drivers/acpi/scan.c:
> >>>>         /*
> >>>>          * Although we call __add_memory() that is documented to require the
> >>>>          * device_hotplug_lock, it is not necessary here because this is an
> >>>>          * early code when userspace or any other code path cannot trigger
> >>>>          * hotplug/hotunplug operations.
> >>>>          */
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It really is a special case, though.
> >>>
> >>> That's a large comment block when we could have just taken the lock.
> >>> There's probably many other code paths in the kernel where some locks
> >>> are not necessary before userspace is up, but the code takes the lock
> >>> anyway to minimize the code maintenance burden. Is there really a
> >>> compelling reason to be clever here?
> >>
> >> It was a lengthy discussion back then and I was sharing your opinion. I
> >> even had a patch ready to enforce that we are holding the lock (that's
> >> how I identified that specific case in the first place).
> >
> > Ok, apologies I missed that opportunity to back you up. Michal, is
> > this still worth it?
> >
>
> For your reference (roughly 5 months ago, so not that old)
>
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190724143017.12841-1-david@redhat.com

Oh, now I see the problem. You need to add that lock so far away from
the __add_memory() to avoid lock inversion problems with the
acpi_scan_lock. The organization I was envisioning would not work
without deeper refactoring.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-10 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-10  4:30 Dan Williams
2020-01-10  9:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 16:42   ` Dan Williams
2020-01-10 16:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 16:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 17:24       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-10 17:29         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 17:33           ` Dan Williams
2020-01-10 17:36             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 17:39               ` Dan Williams
2020-01-10 17:42                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-10 21:27                   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2020-01-24 12:45                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-24 18:04                       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-24 18:13                         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-27 13:47                         ` Michal Hocko

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