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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	david <david@fromorbit.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/7] x86, mm: ZONE_DEVICE for "device memory"
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:23:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4hpKHH924B-Udvii5L8xFr04snEA+CLwSMk8mpzsPihkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818165532.GA7424@gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 05:46:43PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 07:11:27PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> Although it does not offer perfect protection if device memory is at a
>> >> physically lower address than RAM, skipping the update of these
>> >> variables does seem to be what we want.  For example /dev/mem would
>> >> fail to allow write access to persistent memory if it fails a
>> >> valid_phys_addr_range() check.  Since /dev/mem does not know how to
>> >> write to PMEM in a reliably persistent way, it should not treat a
>> >> PMEM-pfn like RAM.
>> >
>> > So i attach is a patch that should keep ZONE_DEVICE out of consideration
>> > for the buddy allocator. You might also want to keep page reserved and not
>> > free inside the zone, you could replace the generic_online_page() using
>> > set_online_page_callback() while hotpluging device memory.
>> >
>>
>> Hmm, are we already protected by the fact that ZONE_DEVICE is not
>> represented in the GFP_ZONEMASK?
>
> Yeah seems you right, high_zoneidx (which is derive using gfp_zone()) will
> always limit which zones are considered. I thought that under memory presure
> it would go over all of the zonelist entry and eventualy consider the device
> zone. But it doesn't seems to be that way.
>
> Keeping the device zone out of the zonelist might still be a good idea, if
> only to avoid pointless iteration for the page allocator. Unless someone can
> think of a reason why this would be bad.
>

The other question I have is whether disabling ZONE_DMA is a realistic
tradeoff for enabling ZONE_DEVICE?  I.e. can ZONE_DMA default to off
going forward, lose some ISA device support, or do we need to figure
out how to enable > 4 zones.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-18 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-13  3:50 [RFC PATCH 0/7] 'struct page' driver for persistent memory Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] x86, mm: ZONE_DEVICE for "device memory" Dan Williams
2015-08-14 21:37   ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-14 21:52     ` Dan Williams
2015-08-14 22:06       ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-14 22:33         ` Dan Williams
2015-08-15  2:11           ` Dan Williams
2015-08-17 21:45             ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-18  0:46               ` Dan Williams
2015-08-18 16:55                 ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-18 17:23                   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2015-08-18 19:06                     ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-20  0:49                       ` Dan Williams
2015-08-15  8:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-21 15:02         ` Dan Williams
2015-08-21 15:15           ` Jerome Glisse
2015-08-15 13:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] x86, mm: introduce struct vmem_altmap Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] x86, mm: arch_add_dev_memory() Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] mm: register_dev_memmap() Dan Williams
2015-08-15  9:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] libnvdimm, e820: make CONFIG_X86_PMEM_LEGACY a tristate option Dan Williams
2015-08-15  9:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-15 15:28     ` Dan Williams
2015-08-15 15:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-15 16:04         ` Dan Williams
2015-08-17 15:01           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-17 15:32             ` Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] libnvdimm, pfn: 'struct page' provider infrastructure Dan Williams
2015-08-13  3:50 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] libnvdimm, pmem: 'struct page' for pmem Dan Williams
2015-08-15  9:01 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] 'struct page' driver for persistent memory Christoph Hellwig

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