From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: john.hubbard@gmail.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*()
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:10:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gayKk_zHDYAvntware12qMXWjnnL_FDJNUQsJS_zNfDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180617200432.krw36wrcwidb25cj@ziepe.ca>
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:53:04PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>> > index 6db729dc4c50..37576f0a4645 100644
>> > +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>> > @@ -1360,6 +1360,8 @@ static bool try_to_unmap_one(struct page *page, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>> > flags & TTU_SPLIT_FREEZE, page);
>> > }
>> >
>> > + if (PageDmaPinned(page))
>> > + return false;
>> > /*
>> > * We have to assume the worse case ie pmd for invalidation. Note that
>> > * the page can not be free in this function as call of try_to_unmap()
>>
>> We have a similiar problem with DAX and the conclusion we came to is
>> that it is not acceptable for userspace to arbitrarily block kernel
>> actions. The conclusion there was: 'wait' if the DMA is transient, and
>> 'revoke' if the DMA is long lived, or otherwise 'block' long-lived DMA
>> if a revocation mechanism is not available.
>
> This might be the right answer for certain things, but it shouldn't be
> the immediate reaction to everthing. There are many user APIs that
> block kernel actions and hold kernel resources.
>
> IMHO, there should be an identifiable objection, eg is blocking going
> to create a DOS, dead-lock, insecurity, etc?
I believe kernel behavior regression is a primary concern as now
fallocate() and truncate() can randomly fail where they didn't before.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-17 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-17 1:25 [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers john.hubbard
2018-06-17 1:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] consolidate get_user_pages error handling john.hubbard
2018-06-17 1:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*() john.hubbard
2018-06-17 19:53 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-17 20:10 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-06-17 20:28 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 8:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:50 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 17:56 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 18:14 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 19:21 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 19:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-18 20:04 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 21:36 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-19 8:29 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19 9:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-06-19 10:41 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19 18:11 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20 1:24 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20 1:34 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20 1:57 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20 2:03 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20 12:08 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-20 22:55 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-21 16:30 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 15:21 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 19:03 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26 7:52 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26 6:31 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26 11:48 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26 13:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 16:48 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 11:53 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 12:42 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 14:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-27 17:02 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-28 2:42 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-28 9:17 ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02 5:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02 6:10 ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02 6:34 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02 6:41 ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02 10:36 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 7:02 ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02 14:48 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 6:58 ` Jan Kara
2018-06-18 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-19 6:15 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-06-17 22:19 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 7:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:44 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers Christopher Lameter
2018-06-17 22:23 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 8:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
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