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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: john.hubbard@gmail.com, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*()
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:10:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gayKk_zHDYAvntware12qMXWjnnL_FDJNUQsJS_zNfDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180617200432.krw36wrcwidb25cj@ziepe.ca>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:53:04PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> > diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>> > index 6db729dc4c50..37576f0a4645 100644
>> > +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>> > @@ -1360,6 +1360,8 @@ static bool try_to_unmap_one(struct page *page, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>> >                                 flags & TTU_SPLIT_FREEZE, page);
>> >         }
>> >
>> > +       if (PageDmaPinned(page))
>> > +               return false;
>> >         /*
>> >          * We have to assume the worse case ie pmd for invalidation. Note that
>> >          * the page can not be free in this function as call of try_to_unmap()
>>
>> We have a similiar problem with DAX and the conclusion we came to is
>> that it is not acceptable for userspace to arbitrarily block kernel
>> actions. The conclusion there was: 'wait' if the DMA is transient, and
>> 'revoke' if the DMA is long lived, or otherwise 'block' long-lived DMA
>> if a revocation mechanism is not available.
>
> This might be the right answer for certain things, but it shouldn't be
> the immediate reaction to everthing. There are many user APIs that
> block kernel actions and hold kernel resources.
>
> IMHO, there should be an identifiable objection, eg is blocking going
> to create a DOS, dead-lock, insecurity, etc?

I believe kernel behavior regression is a primary concern as now
fallocate() and truncate() can randomly fail where they didn't before.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-17 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-17  1:25 [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] consolidate get_user_pages error handling john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*() john.hubbard
2018-06-17 19:53   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-17 20:10       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-06-17 20:28         ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:12           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:50             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 17:56               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 18:14                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 19:21                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 19:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-18 20:04                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 21:36                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-19  8:29                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19  9:02                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-06-19 10:41                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19 18:11                             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:24                               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  1:34                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  2:03                                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20 12:08                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-20 22:55                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-21 16:30                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 15:21                                     ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 19:03                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26  7:52                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26  6:31                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26 11:48                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26 13:47                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 16:48                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:32                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 11:53                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:59                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 12:42                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 14:57                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-27 17:02                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-28  2:42                                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-28  9:17                                       ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02  5:52                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02  6:10                                           ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02  6:34                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02  6:41                                               ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02 10:36                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  7:02                                             ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02 14:48                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  6:58                                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-18  8:11         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-19  6:15           ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-06-17 22:19     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  7:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:44     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers Christopher Lameter
2018-06-17 22:23   ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:10   ` Christoph Hellwig

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