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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: introduce MAP_VALIDATE, a mechanism for for safely defining new mmap flags
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 14:31:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4g3J10brmUAw8UV4cOP+Yn6wHD2N_OHe1YdaczUZZmN0g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzo4oV87tVjEzx+cHVxfihm=31+fWtsdWow3AmfsdzJJw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> This patch strikes me as insane.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
>>                 switch (flags & MAP_TYPE) {
>> +               case (MAP_SHARED|MAP_VALIDATE):
>> +                       /* TODO: new map flags */
>> +                       return -EINVAL;
>>                 case MAP_SHARED:
>>                         if ((prot&PROT_WRITE) && !(file->f_mode&FMODE_WRITE))
>>                                 return -EACCES;
>
> So you "add" support for MAP_SHARED|MAP_VALIDATE, but then error out on it.
>
> And you don't add support for MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_VALIDATE at all, so that
> errors out too.
>
> Which makes me think that you actually only want MAP:_VALIDATE support
> for shared mappings.
>
> Which in turn means that all your blathering about how this cannot
> work on HP-UX is just complete garbage, because you might as well just
> realize that MAP_TYPE isn't a mask of _bitmasks_, it's a mask of
> values.
>
> So just make MAP_VALIDATE be 0x3. Which works for everybody. Make it
> mean the same as MAP_SHARED with flag validation. End of story.
>
> None of these stupid games that are complete and utter garbage, and
> make people think that the MAP_TYPE bits are somehow a bitmask. They
> aren't. The bitmasks are all the *other* bits that aren't in
> MAP_TYTPE.
>
> Yes, yes, I see why you *think* you want a bitmap. You think you want
> a bitmap because you want to make MAP_VALIDATE be part of MAP_SYNC
> etc, so that people can do
>
>     ret = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED |
> MAP_SYNC, fd, 0);
>
> and "know" that MAP_SYNC actually takes.
>
> And I'm saying that whole wish is bogus. You're fundamentally
> depending on special semantics, just make it explicit. It's already
> not portable, so don't try to make it so.
>
> Rename that MAP_VALIDATE as MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, make it have a valud
> of 0x3, and make people do
>
>    ret = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE
> | MAP_SYNC, fd, 0);

Yeah, we originally had MAP_VALIDATE defined as
(MAP_SHARED|MAP_PRIVATE), but Kirill was concerned that would make
something like MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_SYNC silently provide MAP_SHARED
semantics. MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE solves that problem.

> and then the kernel side is easier too (none of that random garbage
> playing games with looking at the "MAP_VALIDATE bit", but just another
> case statement in that map type thing.
>
> Boom. Done.

Looks good to me.

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      reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-30 23:08 [PATCH 0/2] MAP_VALIDATE and mmap flags validation Dan Williams
2017-08-30 23:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] vfs: add flags parameter to ->mmap() in 'struct file_operations' Dan Williams
2017-08-31 10:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-01  0:54     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-30 23:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: introduce MAP_VALIDATE, a mechanism for for safely defining new mmap flags Dan Williams
2017-08-31 10:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-01  1:01     ` Dan Williams
2017-09-01  1:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-01  1:40         ` Dan Williams
2017-09-01  7:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-31 16:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-31 21:31     ` Dan Williams [this message]

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