From: Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>,
corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, wuyun.abel@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: add new syscall pidfd_set_mempolicy()
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 10:22:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPTztWZZOxtzdEm=wbOiL_VDPJuCaW0XVCvsdRpCHE+ph+5eZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0WE/lEiNvl2ljo1@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 8:00 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon 10-10-22 09:22:13, Frank van der Linden wrote:
> > For consistency with process_madvise(), I would suggest calling it
> > process_set_mempolicy.
>
> This operation has per-thread rather than per-process semantic so I do
> not think your proposed naming is better.
True. I suppose you could argue that it should have been
pidfd_madvise() then for consistency, but that ship has sailed.
>
> > Other than that, this makes sense. To complete
> > the set, perhaps a process_mbind() should be added as well. What do
> > you think?
>
> Is there any real usecase for this interface? How is the caller supposed
> to make per-range decisions without a very involved coordination with
> the target process?
The use case for a potential pidfd_mbind() is basically a combination
of what is described for in the process_madvise proposal (
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200901000633.1920247-1-minchan@kernel.org/
), and what this proposal describes: system management software acting
as an orchestrator that has a better overview of the system as a whole
(NUMA nodes, memory tiering), and has knowledge of the layout of the
processes involved.
pidfd_mbind() makes sense to me, since the notion of an external
agent with knowledge of the VM layout is already there with
process_madvise(). And since set_mempolicy and mbind are closely
related, it would seem logical to add an mbind variant as well as
pidfd_set_mempolicy().
Having said that, I'm fine with leaving that discussion for another time.
- Frank
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-11 17:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-10 9:48 Zhongkun He
2022-10-10 16:22 ` Frank van der Linden
2022-10-11 15:00 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-11 17:22 ` Frank van der Linden [this message]
2022-10-11 19:29 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-12 3:14 ` Abel Wu
2022-10-12 12:34 ` Vinicius Petrucci
2022-10-12 13:07 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-12 13:23 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-12 16:51 ` Frank van der Linden
2022-10-11 14:57 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-12 7:55 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-10-12 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-12 11:22 ` Zhongkun He
2022-10-12 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-13 10:44 ` Zhongkun He
2022-10-13 11:26 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-13 12:50 ` Zhongkun He
2022-10-13 13:17 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-13 13:42 ` Zhongkun He
2022-10-12 4:16 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-12 8:18 ` [External] " Zhongkun He
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