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From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Pawel Sikora <pluto@agmk.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, arekm@pld-linux.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:42:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPQyPG7MvO8Qw3jrOMShQcG5Z-RwbzpKnu-AheoS6aRYNhW14w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111117184252.GK3306@redhat.com>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Hugh,
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 04:16:57PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> As you found, the mremap locking long predates truncation's double unmap.
>>
>> That's an interesting point, and you may be right - though, what about
>> the *very* unlikely case where unmap_mapping_range looks at new vma
>> when pte is in old, then at old vma when pte is in new, then
>> move_page_tables runs out of memory and cannot complete, then the
>> second unmap_mapping_range looks at old vma while pte is still in new
>> (I guess this needs some other activity to have jumbled the prio_tree,
>> and may just be impossible), then at new (to be abandoned) vma after
>> pte has moved back to old.
>
> I tend to think it should still work fine. The second loop is needed
> to take care of the "reverse" order. If the first move_page_tables is
> not in order the second move_page_tables will be in order. So it
> should catch it. If the first move_page_tables is in order, the double
> loop will catch any skip in the second move_page_tables.


First of all, I believe that at the POSIX level, it's ok for
truncate_inode_page()
not scanning  COWed pages, since basically we does not provide any guarantee
for privately mapped file pages for this behavior. But missing a file
mapped pte after its
cache page is already removed from the the page cache is a
fundermental malfuntion for
a shared mapping when some threads see the file cache page is gone
while some thread
is still r/w from/to it! No matter how short the gap between
truncate_inode_page() and
the second loop, this is wrong.

Second, even if the we don't care about this POSIX flaw that may
introduce, a pte can still
missed by the second loop. mremap can happen serveral times during
these non-atomic
firstpass-trunc-secondpass operations, a proper events can happily
make the wrong order
for every scan, and miss them all -- That's just what in Hugh's mind
in the post you just
replied. Without lock and proper ordering( which patial mremap cannot provide),
this *will* happen.

You may disagree with me and have that locking removed, and I am
already have that
one line patch prepared waiting fora bug bumpping up again, what a
cheap patch submission!

:P


Thanks,

Nai

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-18  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201110122012.33767.pluto@agmk.net>
     [not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110131547550.1346@sister.anvils>
2011-10-13 23:30   ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Hugh Dickins
2011-10-16 16:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-16 23:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 18:51       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 22:05         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-19  7:43         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-19 13:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-19 19:42             ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-20  6:30               ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  6:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-21  6:54                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  7:35                   ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-20 12:51               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-20 18:36                 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-21  6:22                   ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  8:07                     ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-21  9:07                       ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 21:36                         ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-22  6:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 16:42                             ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  9:11       ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 15:56         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-21 17:21           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 17:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-21 22:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-22  5:52               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-31 17:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 17:27                   ` [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 12:07                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-01 14:35                     ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04  7:31                     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 14:34                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 15:59                         ` Pawel Sikora
2011-11-05  2:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 19:16                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 20:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:09                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  2:21                               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-05  3:07                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 17:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-08  3:24                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-12-08 12:42                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-09  0:08                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-09  1:55                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-04 23:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:21                         ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  0:59                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  1:33                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  2:00                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-07 13:14                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-07 15:42                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-07 16:28                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-09  1:25                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11  9:14                                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-16 14:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-17  0:16                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-17  2:49                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17  6:21                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 18:42                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18  1:42                                             ` Nai Xia [this message]
2011-11-18  2:17                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-19  9:15                                                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22  5:07             ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Nai Xia
2011-10-31 16:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 22:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17  3:02     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17  3:09       ` Linus Torvalds

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