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From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Pawel Sikora <pluto@agmk.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, arekm@pld-linux.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:11:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPQyPG69WePwar+k0nhwfdW7vv7FjqJBYwKfYm7n5qaPwS-WgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111016235442.GB25266@redhat.com>

Hi Andrea,

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> mremap's down_write of mmap_sem, together with i_mmap_mutex/lock,
>> and pagetable locks, were good enough before page migration (with its
>> requirement that every migration entry be found) came in; and enough
>> while migration always held mmap_sem.  But not enough nowadays, when
>> there's memory hotremove and compaction: anon_vma lock is also needed,
>> to make sure a migration entry is not dodging around behind our back.
>
> For things like migrate and split_huge_page, the anon_vma layer must
> guarantee the page is reachable by rmap walk at all times regardless
> if it's at the old or new address.
>
> This shall be guaranteed by the copy_vma called by move_vma well
> before move_page_tables/move_ptes can run.
>
> copy_vma obviously takes the anon_vma lock to insert the new "dst" vma
> into the anon_vma chains structures (vma_link does that). That before
> any pte can be moved.
>
> Because we keep two vmas mapped on both src and dst range, with
> different vma->vm_pgoff that is valid for the page (the page doesn't
> change its page->index) the page should always find _all_ its pte at
> any given time.
>
> There may be other variables at play like the order of insertion in
> the anon_vma chain matches our direction of copy and removal of the
> old pte. But I think the double locking of the PT lock should make the
> order in the anon_vma chain absolutely irrelevant (the rmap_walk
> obviously takes the PT lock too), and furthermore likely the
> anon_vma_chain insertion is favorable (the dst vma is inserted last
> and checked last). But it shouldn't matter.

I happened to be reading these code last week.

And I do think this order matters, the reason is just quite similar why we
need i_mmap_lock in move_ptes():
If rmap_walk goes dst--->src, then when it first look into dst, ok, the
pte is not there, and it happily skip it and release the PTL.
Then just before it look into src, move_ptes() comes in, takes the locks
and moves the pte from src to dst. And then when rmap_walk() look
into src,  it will find an empty pte again. The pte is still there,
but rmap_walk() missed it !

IMO, this can really happen in case of vma_merge() succeeding.
Imagine that src vma is lately faulted and in anon_vma_prepare()
it got a same anon_vma with an existing vma ( named evil_vma )through
find_mergeable_anon_vma().  This can potentially make the vma_merge() in
copy_vma() return with evil_vma on some new relocation request. But src_vma
is really linked _after_  evil_vma/new_vma/dst_vma.
In this way, the ordering protocol  of anon_vma chain is broken.
This should be a rare case because I think in most cases
if two VMAs can reusable_anon_vma() they were already merged.

How do you think  ?

And If my reasoning is sound and this bug is really triggered by it
Hugh's first patch should be the right fix :)


Regards,

Nai Xia

>
> Another thing could be the copy_vma vma_merge branch succeeding
> (returning not NULL) but I doubt we risk to fall into that one. For
> the rmap_walk to be always working on both the src and dst
> vma->vma_pgoff the pgoff must be different so we can't possibly be ok
> if there's just 1 vma covering the whole range. I exclude this could
> be the case because the pgoff passed to copy_vma is different than the
> vma->vm_pgoff given to copy_vma, so vma_merge can't possibly succeed.
>
> Yet another point to investigate is the point where we teardown the
> old vma and we leave the new vma generated by copy_vma
> established. That's apparently taken care of by do_munmap in move_vma
> so that shall be safe too as munmap is safe in the first place.
>
> Overall I don't think this patch is needed and it seems a noop.
>
>> It appears that Mel's a8bef8ff6ea1 "mm: migration: avoid race between
>> shift_arg_pages() and rmap_walk() during migration by not migrating
>> temporary stacks" was actually a workaround for this in the special
>> common case of exec's use of move_pagetables(); and we should probably
>> now remove that VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP stuff as a separate cleanup.
>
> I don't think this patch can help with that, the problem of execve vs
> rmap_walk is that there's 1 single vma existing for src and dst
> virtual ranges while execve runs move_page_tables. So there is no
> possible way that rmap_walk will be guaranteed to find _all_ ptes
> mapping a page if there's just one vma mapping either the src or dst
> range while move_page_table runs. No addition of locking whatsoever
> can fix that bug because we miss a vma (well modulo locking that
> prevents rmap_walk to run at all, until we're finished with execve,
> which is more or less what VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP does...).
>
> The only way is to fix this is prevent migrate (or any other rmap_walk
> user that requires 100% reliability from the rmap layer, for example
> swap doesn't require 100% reliability and can still run and gracefully
> fail at finding the pte) while we're moving pagetables in execve. And
> that's what Mel's above mentioned patch does.
>
> The other way to fix that bug that I implemented was to do copy_vma in
> execve, so that we still have both src and dst ranges of
> move_page_tables covered by 2 (not 1) vma, each with the proper
> vma->vm_pgoff, so my approach fixed that bug as well (but requires a
> vma allocation in execve so it was dropped in favor of Mel's patch
> which is totally fine with as both approaches fixes the bug equally
> well, even if now we've to deal with this special case of sometime
> rmap_walk having false negatives if the vma_flags is set, and the
> important thing is that after VM_STACK_INCOMPLETE_SETUP has been
> cleared it won't ever be set again for the whole lifetime of the vma).
>
> I may be missing something, I did a short review so far, just so the
> patch doesn't get merged if not needed. I mean I think it needs a bit
> more looks on it... The fact the i_mmap_mutex was taken but the
> anon_vma lock was not taken (while in every other place they both are
> needed) certainly makes the patch look correct, but that's just a
> misleading coincidence I think.
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-20  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201110122012.33767.pluto@agmk.net>
     [not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110131547550.1346@sister.anvils>
2011-10-13 23:30   ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-16 16:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-16 23:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 18:51       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 22:05         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-19  7:43         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-19 13:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-19 19:42             ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-20  6:30               ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  6:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-21  6:54                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  7:35                   ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-20 12:51               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-20 18:36                 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-21  6:22                   ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  8:07                     ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-21  9:07                       ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 21:36                         ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-22  6:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 16:42                             ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  9:11       ` Nai Xia [this message]
2011-10-21 15:56         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-21 17:21           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 17:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-21 22:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-22  5:52               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-31 17:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 17:27                   ` [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 12:07                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-01 14:35                     ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04  7:31                     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 14:34                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 15:59                         ` Pawel Sikora
2011-11-05  2:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 19:16                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 20:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:09                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  2:21                               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-05  3:07                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 17:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-08  3:24                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-12-08 12:42                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-09  0:08                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-09  1:55                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-04 23:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:21                         ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  0:59                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  1:33                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  2:00                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-07 13:14                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-07 15:42                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-07 16:28                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-09  1:25                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11  9:14                                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-16 14:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-17  0:16                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-17  2:49                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17  6:21                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 18:42                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18  1:42                                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-18  2:17                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-19  9:15                                                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22  5:07             ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Nai Xia
2011-10-31 16:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 22:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17  3:02     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17  3:09       ` Linus Torvalds

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