From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Pawel Sikora <pluto@agmk.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, arekm@pld-linux.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:15:10 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPQyPG5GXOb1o5DjkTcjqbes=R_0BP8LR2fZDYroORn_-uE1AQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111118021714.GP3306@redhat.com>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 09:42:05AM +0800, Nai Xia wrote:
>> First of all, I believe that at the POSIX level, it's ok for
>> truncate_inode_page()
>> not scanning COWed pages, since basically we does not provide any guarantee
>> for privately mapped file pages for this behavior. But missing a file
>> mapped pte after its
>> cache page is already removed from the the page cache is a
>
> I also exclude there is a case that would break, but it's safer to
> keep things as is, in case somebody depends on segfault trapping.
>
>> fundermental malfuntion for
>> a shared mapping when some threads see the file cache page is gone
>> while some thread
>> is still r/w from/to it! No matter how short the gap between
>> truncate_inode_page() and
>> the second loop, this is wrong.
>
> Truncate will destroy the info on disk too... so if somebody is
> writing to a mapping which points beyond the end of the i_size
> concurrently with truncate, the result is undefined. The write may
> well reach the page but then the page is discared. Or you may get
> SIGBUS before the write.
>
>> Second, even if the we don't care about this POSIX flaw that may
>> introduce, a pte can still
>> missed by the second loop. mremap can happen serveral times during
>> these non-atomic
>> firstpass-trunc-secondpass operations, a proper events can happily
>> make the wrong order
>> for every scan, and miss them all -- That's just what in Hugh's mind
>> in the post you just
>> replied. Without lock and proper ordering( which patial mremap cannot provide),
>> this *will* happen.
>
> There won't be more than one mremap running concurrently from the same
> process (we must enforce it by making sure anon_vma lock and
> i_mmap_lock are both taken at least once in copy_vma, they're already
> both taken in fork, they should already be taken in all common cases
> in copy_vma so for all cases it's going to be a L1 exclusive cacheline
> already). I don't exclude there may be some case that won't take the
> locks in vma_adjust though, we should check it, if we decide to relay
> on the double loop, but it'd be a simple addition if needed.
I mean it's not the concurrent mremap, it's mremap() can be done several
times between these 3-stage scans, since we don't take the mmap_sem
of the scanned VMAs, they are valid to do so. And without proper ordering
and locks/mutex it's possible for these 3-stage scans racing with these
mremap() s and a ghost PTE just jumps back and force and misses all
these scans.
>
> I'm more concerned about the pte pointing to the orphaned pagecache
> that would materialize for a little while because of
> unmap+truncate+unmap instead of unmap+unmap+truncate (but the latter
> order is needed for the COWs).
>
>> You may disagree with me and have that locking removed, and I am
>> already have that
>> one line patch prepared waiting fora bug bumpping up again, what a
>> cheap patch submission!
>
> Well I'm not yet sure it's good idea to remove the i_mmap_mutex, or if
> we should just add the anon_vma lock in mremap and add the i_mmap_lock
> in fork (to avoid the orphaned pagecache left mapped in the child
> which already may happen unless there's some i_mmap_lock belonging to
> the same inode taken after copy_page_range returns until we return to
> userland and child can run, and I don't think we can relay on the
> order of the prio tree in fork. Fork is safe for anon pages because
> there we can relay on the order of the same_anon_vma list.
>
> I think clearing up if this orphaned pagecache is dangerous would be a
> good start. If too complex we just add the i_mmap_lock around
> copy_page_range in fork if vma->vm_file is set. If you instead think
> we can deal with the orphaned pagecache we can add a dummy lock/unlock
> of i_mmap_mutex in copy_vma vma_merge succeeding case (short critical
> section and not common common case) and remove the i_mmap_mutex around
> move_page_tables (common case) overall speeding up mremap and not
> degrading fork.
>
I am actually feel comfortable either direction you take :)
But I do think orphaned pagecache is not a good idea,
don't you see there is a "BUG_ON(page_mapped(page))"
in __delete_from_page_cache()? Do you really plan to
remove this line?
Nai
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[not found] <201110122012.33767.pluto@agmk.net>
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110131547550.1346@sister.anvils>
2011-10-13 23:30 ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Hugh Dickins
2011-10-16 16:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-16 23:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 18:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-19 7:43 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-19 13:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-19 19:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-20 6:30 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20 6:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-21 6:54 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 7:35 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-20 12:51 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-20 18:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-21 6:22 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 8:07 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-21 9:07 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 21:36 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-22 6:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 16:42 ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20 9:11 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 15:56 ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-21 17:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 17:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-21 22:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-22 5:52 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-31 17:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 17:27 ` [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 12:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-01 14:35 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 7:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 14:34 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 15:59 ` Pawel Sikora
2011-11-05 2:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 19:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 20:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 0:09 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 2:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-05 3:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-08 3:24 ` David Rientjes
2011-12-08 12:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-09 0:08 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-09 1:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-04 23:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 0:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 0:59 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 2:00 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-07 13:14 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-07 15:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-07 16:28 ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-09 1:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11 9:14 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-16 14:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-17 0:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-17 2:49 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 6:21 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 18:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18 1:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-11-18 2:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-19 9:15 ` Nai Xia [this message]
2011-10-22 5:07 ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Nai Xia
2011-10-31 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17 3:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 3:09 ` Linus Torvalds
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