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From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Pawel Sikora <pluto@agmk.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com, arekm@pld-linux.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:59:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPQyPG5=a0HM-wK72-a-1AGjMVUtg3o03ttoZigb+tvKcxjJ6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPQyPG5i87VcnwU5UoKiT6_=tzqO_NOPXFvyEooA1Orbe_ztGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:31:04AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>>> > diff --git a/mm/mmap.c b/mm/mmap.c
>>> > index a65efd4..a5858dc 100644
>>> > --- a/mm/mmap.c
>>> > +++ b/mm/mmap.c
>>> > @@ -2339,7 +2339,15 @@ struct vm_area_struct *copy_vma(struct vm_area_struct **vmap,
>>> >              */
>>> >             if (vma_start >= new_vma->vm_start &&
>>> >                 vma_start < new_vma->vm_end)
>>> > +                   /*
>>> > +                    * No need to call anon_vma_order_tail() in
>>> > +                    * this case because the same PT lock will
>>> > +                    * serialize the rmap_walk against both src
>>> > +                    * and dst vmas.
>>> > +                    */
>>>
>>> Really?  Please convince me: I just do not see what ensures that
>>> the same pt lock covers both src and dst areas in this case.
>>
>> Right, vma being the same for src/dst doesn't mean the PT lock is the
>> same, it might be if source pte entry fit in the same pagetable but
>> maybe not if the vma is >2M (the max a single pagetable can point to).
>>
>>> >                     *vmap = new_vma;
>>> > +           else
>>> > +                   anon_vma_order_tail(new_vma);
>>>
>>> And if this puts new_vma in the right position for the normal
>>> move_page_tables(), as anon_vma_clone() does in the block below,
>>> aren't they both in exactly the wrong position for the abnormal
>>> move_page_tables(), called to put ptes back where they were if
>>> the original move_page_tables() fails?
>>
>> Failure paths. Good point, they'd need to be reversed again in that
>> case.
>>
>>> It might be possible to argue that move_page_tables() can only
>>> fail by failing to allocate memory for pud or pmd, and that (perhaps)
>>> could only happen if the task was being OOM-killed and ran out of
>>> reserves at this point, and if it's being OOM-killed then we don't
>>> mind losing a migration entry for a moment... perhaps.
>>
>> Hmm no it wouldn't be ok, or I wouldn't want to risk that.
>>
>>> Certainly I'd agree that it's a very rare case.  But it feels wrong
>>> to be attempting to fix the already unlikely issue, while ignoring
>>> this aspect, or relying on such unrelated implementation details.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> Perhaps some further anon_vma_ordering could fix it up,
>>> but that would look increasingly desperate.
>>
>> I think what Nai didn't consider in explaining this theoretical race
>> that I noticed now is the anon_vma root lock taken by adjust_vma.
>>
>> If the merge succeeds adjust_vma will take the lock and flush away
>> from all others CPUs any sign of rmap_walk before the move_page_tables
>> can start.
>>
>> So it can't happen that you do rmap_walk, check vma1, mremap moves
>> stuff from vma2 to vma1 (wrong order), and then rmap_walk continues
>> checking vma2 where the pte won't be there anymore. It can't happen
>> because mremap would block in vma_merge waiting the rmap_walk to
>> complete. Before proceeding moving any pte. Thanks to the anon_vma
>> lock already taken by adjust_vma.
>
> Still,  I think it's not rmap_walk() ---> mremap() --> rmap_walk() that trigger
> the bug,  but this events would:
>
> copy_vma() ---> rmap_walk() scan dst VMA --> move_page_tables() moves src to dst
> --->  rmap_walk() scan src VMA.  :D

OK, I think I need to be more concise: Your last reasoning only
ensures that mremap
as a whole entity cannot interleave with  rmap_walk(). But I think
nothing can prevent
move_page_tables() from doing this. As long as copy_vma() gives an
wrong ordering,
the racing between  rmap_walk() & move_page_tables() afterwards may
trigger the bug.

Do you agree?



>
> I might be wrong. But thank you all for the time and patience for
> playing this racing game
> with me. It's really an honor to exhaust my mind on a daunting thing
> with you. :)
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nai
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-05  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201110122012.33767.pluto@agmk.net>
     [not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1110131547550.1346@sister.anvils>
2011-10-13 23:30   ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Hugh Dickins
2011-10-16 16:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-16 23:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-17 18:51       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17 22:05         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-19  7:43         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-19 13:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-19 19:42             ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-20  6:30               ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  6:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-21  6:54                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  7:35                   ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-20 12:51               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-20 18:36                 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-21  6:22                   ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21  8:07                     ` Pawel Sikora
2011-10-21  9:07                       ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 21:36                         ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-22  6:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22 16:42                             ` Paweł Sikora
2011-10-20  9:11       ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 15:56         ` Mel Gorman
2011-10-21 17:21           ` Nai Xia
2011-10-21 17:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-21 22:50             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-22  5:52               ` Nai Xia
2011-10-31 17:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 17:27                   ` [PATCH] mremap: enforce rmap src/dst vma ordering in case of vma_merge succeeding in copy_vma Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 12:07                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-01 14:35                     ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04  7:31                     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 14:34                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 15:59                         ` Pawel Sikora
2011-11-05  2:21                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-04 19:16                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-04 20:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:09                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  2:21                               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-05  3:07                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05 17:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-08  3:24                                   ` David Rientjes
2011-12-08 12:42                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-09  0:08                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-09  1:55                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-04 23:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  0:21                         ` Nai Xia
2011-11-05  0:59                           ` Nai Xia [this message]
2011-11-05  1:33                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-05  2:00                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-07 13:14                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-07 15:42                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-07 16:28                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-11-09  1:25                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-11  9:14                                       ` Nai Xia
2011-11-16 14:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-17  0:16                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-17  2:49                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17  6:21                                           ` Nai Xia
2011-11-17 18:42                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-18  1:42                                             ` Nai Xia
2011-11-18  2:17                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-19  9:15                                                 ` Nai Xia
2011-10-22  5:07             ` kernel 3.0: BUG: soft lockup: find_get_pages+0x51/0x110 Nai Xia
2011-10-31 16:34               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-16 22:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-10-17  3:02     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-10-17  3:09       ` Linus Torvalds

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