From: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
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Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
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Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: [v7 7/8] mm: only IPI CPUs to drain local pages if they exist
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:32:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOtvUMfNFt4KYZP0DceWP1M+=r1_tXzOa8qMKXm2wE4XzsYkyQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120130134933.39779c48.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:18:32 +0200
> Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Andrew Morton
>> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:02:00 +0200
>> > Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Calculate a cpumask of CPUs with per-cpu pages in any zone
>> >> and only send an IPI requesting CPUs to drain these pages
>> >> to the buddy allocator if they actually have pages when
>> >> asked to flush.
>> >>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > Can we end up sending an IPI to a now-unplugged CPU? __That won't work
>> > very well if that CPU is now sitting on its sysadmin's desk.
>>
>> Nope. on_each_cpu_mask() disables preemption and calls smp_call_function_many()
>> which then checks the mask against the cpu_online_mask
>
> OK.
>
> General rule of thumb: if a reviewer asked something then it is likely
> that others will wonder the same thing when reading the code later on.
> So consider reviewer questions as a sign that the code needs additional
> comments!
Right, point taken.
>
>> > There's also the case of CPU online. __We could end up failing to IPI a
>> > CPU which now has some percpu pages. __That's not at all serious - 90%
>> > is good enough in page reclaim. __But this thinking merits a mention in
>> > the comment. __Or we simply make this code hotplug-safe.
>>
>> hmm.. I'm probably daft but I don't see how to make the code hotplug safe for
>> CPU online case. I mean, let's say we disable preemption throughout the
>> entire ordeal and then the CPU goes online and gets itself some percpu pages
>> *after* we've calculated the masks, sent the IPIs and waiting for the
>> whole thing
>> to finish but before we've returned...
>
> This is inherent to the whole drain-pages design - it's only a
> best-effort thing and there's nothing to prevent other CPUs from
> undoing your work 2 nanoseconds later.
>
> The exception to this is the case of suspend, which drains the queues
> when all tasks (and, hopefully, IRQs) have been frozen. This is the
> only way to make draining 100% "reliable".
>
>> I might be missing something here, but I think that unless you have some other
>> means to stop newly hotplugged CPUs to grab per cpus pages there is nothing
>> you can do in this code to stop it. Maybe make the race window
>> shorter, that's all.
>>
>> Would adding a comment such as the following OK?
>>
>> "This code is protected against sending an IPI to an offline CPU but does not
>> guarantee sending an IPI to newly hotplugged CPUs"
>
> Looks OK. I'd mention *how* this protection comes about:
> on_each_cpu_mask() blocks hotplug and won't talk to offlined CPUs.
Good. I'll send an updated patch set.
Thanks :-)
Gilad
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-31 6:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-26 10:01 [v7 0/8] Reduce cross CPU IPI interference Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 1/8] smp: introduce a generic on_each_cpu_mask function Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-29 12:24 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-31 6:33 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 2/8] arm: move arm over to generic on_each_cpu_mask Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 3/8] tile: move tile to use " Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 4/8] smp: add func to IPI cpus based on parameter func Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-27 23:57 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-29 12:04 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 5/8] slub: only IPI CPUs that have per cpu obj to flush Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-26 10:01 ` [v7 6/8] fs: only send IPI to invalidate LRU BH when needed Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 10:02 ` [v7 7/8] mm: only IPI CPUs to drain local pages if they exist Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-01-28 0:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-29 12:18 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-31 6:32 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef [this message]
2012-01-30 14:59 ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-30 15:14 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-30 15:44 ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-26 10:02 ` [v7 8/8] mm: add vmstat counters for tracking PCP drains Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-26 15:19 ` [v7 0/8] Reduce cross CPU IPI interference Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-29 8:25 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-01 17:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 8:46 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-02 15:41 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-05 11:46 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 18:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:13 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:39 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-10 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:33 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 21:50 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-15 22:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-15 23:44 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-21 1:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-01 18:27 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-10 18:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 20:24 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 15:19 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-15 21:51 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-02 16:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 16:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 15:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 15:59 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-02-09 18:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 18:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 17:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-01 17:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-02 9:42 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-01 18:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-01 20:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-01 20:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-02 17:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-05 12:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-05 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-09 15:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-09 18:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-09 23:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-10 1:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-14 13:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-21 0:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 17:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-05 12:06 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-02-06 18:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-02-09 15:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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