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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	 "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	 Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:28:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufasZ6w32sHO+Lq33+tGy3+GiO0_dd6mNYwfS_5gqhzYbw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ae53b2a-e069-f579-428d-ac6f744cd19a@intel.com>

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:07 AM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/28/23 18:13, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> > On 27/07/2023 05:31, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:41 AM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 3:52 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Introduce LARGE_ANON_FOLIO feature, which allows anonymous memory to be
> >>>> allocated in large folios of a determined order. All pages of the large
> >>>> folio are pte-mapped during the same page fault, significantly reducing
> >>>> the number of page faults. The number of per-page operations (e.g. ref
> >>>> counting, rmap management lru list management) are also significantly
> >>>> reduced since those ops now become per-folio.
> >>>>
> >>>> The new behaviour is hidden behind the new LARGE_ANON_FOLIO Kconfig,
> >>>> which defaults to disabled for now; The long term aim is for this to
> >>>> defaut to enabled, but there are some risks around internal
> >>>> fragmentation that need to be better understood first.
> >>>>
> >>>> When enabled, the folio order is determined as such: For a vma, process
> >>>> or system that has explicitly disabled THP, we continue to allocate
> >>>> order-0. THP is most likely disabled to avoid any possible internal
> >>>> fragmentation so we honour that request.
> >>>>
> >>>> Otherwise, the return value of arch_wants_pte_order() is used. For vmas
> >>>> that have not explicitly opted-in to use transparent hugepages (e.g.
> >>>> where thp=madvise and the vma does not have MADV_HUGEPAGE), then
> >>>> arch_wants_pte_order() is limited to 64K (or PAGE_SIZE, whichever is
> >>>> bigger). This allows for a performance boost without requiring any
> >>>> explicit opt-in from the workload while limitting internal
> >>>> fragmentation.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the preferred order can't be used (e.g. because the folio would
> >>>> breach the bounds of the vma, or because ptes in the region are already
> >>>> mapped) then we fall back to a suitable lower order; first
> >>>> PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, then order-0.
> >>>>
> >>>> arch_wants_pte_order() can be overridden by the architecture if desired.
> >>>> Some architectures (e.g. arm64) can coalsece TLB entries if a contiguous
> >>>> set of ptes map physically contigious, naturally aligned memory, so this
> >>>> mechanism allows the architecture to optimize as required.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here we add the default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order(), used
> >>>> when the architecture does not define it, which returns -1, implying
> >>>> that the HW has no preference. In this case, mm will choose it's own
> >>>> default order.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  include/linux/pgtable.h |  13 ++++
> >>>>  mm/Kconfig              |  10 +++
> >>>>  mm/memory.c             | 166 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> >>>>  3 files changed, 172 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
> >>>> index 5063b482e34f..2a1d83775837 100644
> >>>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
> >>>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
> >>>> @@ -313,6 +313,19 @@ static inline bool arch_has_hw_pte_young(void)
> >>>>  }
> >>>>  #endif
> >>>>
> >>>> +#ifndef arch_wants_pte_order
> >>>> +/*
> >>>> + * Returns preferred folio order for pte-mapped memory. Must be in range [0,
> >>>> + * PMD_SHIFT-PAGE_SHIFT) and must not be order-1 since THP requires large folios
> >>>> + * to be at least order-2. Negative value implies that the HW has no preference
> >>>> + * and mm will choose it's own default order.
> >>>> + */
> >>>> +static inline int arch_wants_pte_order(void)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       return -1;
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +#endif
> >>>> +
> >>>>  #ifndef __HAVE_ARCH_PTEP_GET_AND_CLEAR
> >>>>  static inline pte_t ptep_get_and_clear(struct mm_struct *mm,
> >>>>                                        unsigned long address,
> >>>> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> >>>> index 09130434e30d..fa61ea160447 100644
> >>>> --- a/mm/Kconfig
> >>>> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> >>>> @@ -1238,4 +1238,14 @@ config LOCK_MM_AND_FIND_VMA
> >>>>
> >>>>  source "mm/damon/Kconfig"
> >>>>
> >>>> +config LARGE_ANON_FOLIO
> >>>> +       bool "Allocate large folios for anonymous memory"
> >>>> +       depends on TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
> >>>> +       default n
> >>>> +       help
> >>>> +         Use large (bigger than order-0) folios to back anonymous memory where
> >>>> +         possible, even for pte-mapped memory. This reduces the number of page
> >>>> +         faults, as well as other per-page overheads to improve performance for
> >>>> +         many workloads.
> >>>> +
> >>>>  endmenu
> >>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> >>>> index 01f39e8144ef..64c3f242c49a 100644
> >>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
> >>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> >>>> @@ -4050,6 +4050,127 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> >>>>         return ret;
> >>>>  }
> >>>>
> >>>> +static bool vmf_pte_range_changed(struct vm_fault *vmf, int nr_pages)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       int i;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (nr_pages == 1)
> >>>> +               return vmf_pte_changed(vmf);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
> >>>> +               if (!pte_none(ptep_get_lockless(vmf->pte + i)))
> >>>> +                       return true;
> >>>> +       }
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       return false;
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_LARGE_ANON_FOLIO
> >>>> +#define ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED \
> >>>> +               (ilog2(max_t(unsigned long, SZ_64K, PAGE_SIZE)) - PAGE_SHIFT)
> >>>> +
> >>>> +static int anon_folio_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       int order;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       /*
> >>>> +        * If THP is explicitly disabled for either the vma, the process or the
> >>>> +        * system, then this is very likely intended to limit internal
> >>>> +        * fragmentation; in this case, don't attempt to allocate a large
> >>>> +        * anonymous folio.
> >>>> +        *
> >>>> +        * Else, if the vma is eligible for thp, allocate a large folio of the
> >>>> +        * size preferred by the arch. Or if the arch requested a very small
> >>>> +        * size or didn't request a size, then use PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER,
> >>>> +        * which still meets the arch's requirements but means we still take
> >>>> +        * advantage of SW optimizations (e.g. fewer page faults).
> >>>> +        *
> >>>> +        * Finally if thp is enabled but the vma isn't eligible, take the
> >>>> +        * arch-preferred size and limit it to ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED.
> >>>> +        * This ensures workloads that have not explicitly opted-in take benefit
> >>>> +        * while capping the potential for internal fragmentation.
> >>>> +        */
> >>>
> >>> What empirical evidence is SZ_64K based on?
> >>> What workloads would benefit from it?
> >>> How much would they benefit from it?
> >>> Would they benefit more or less from different values?
> >>> How much internal fragmentation would it cause?
> >>> What cost function was used to arrive at the conclusion that its
> >>> benefits outweigh its costs?
> >
> > Sorry this has taken a little while to reply to; I've been re-running my perf
> > tests with the modern patches to recomfirm old data.
> >
> > In terms of empirical evidence, I've run the kernel compilation benchmark (yes I
> > know its a narrow use case, but I figure some data is better than no data), for
> > all values of ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED {4k, 16k, 32k, 64k, 128k, 256k}.
> >
> > I've run each test 15 times across 5 system reboots on Ampere Altra (arm64),
> > with the kernel configured for 4K base pages - I could rerun for other base page
> > sizes if we want to go further down this route.
> >
> > I've captured run time and peak memory usage, and taken the mean. The stdev for
> > the peak memory usage is big-ish, but I'm confident this still captures the
> > central tendancy well:
> >
> > | MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED |   real-time |   kern-time |   user-time | peak memory |
> > |:-------------------|------------:|------------:|------------:|:------------|
> > | 4k                 |        0.0% |        0.0% |        0.0% |        0.0% |
> > | 16k                |       -3.6% |      -26.5% |       -0.5% |       -0.1% |
> > | 32k                |       -4.8% |      -37.4% |       -0.6% |       -0.1% |
> > | 64k                |       -5.7% |      -42.0% |       -0.6% |       -1.1% |
> > | 128k               |       -5.6% |      -42.1% |       -0.7% |        1.4% |
> > | 256k               |       -4.9% |      -41.9% |       -0.4% |        1.9% |
>
> Here is my test result:
>
>                 real            user            sys
> hink-4k:         0%             0%              0%
> hink-16K:       -3%             0.1%            -18.3%
> hink-32K:       -4%             0.2%            -27.2%
> hink-64K:       -4%             0.5%            -31.0%
> hink-128K:      -4%             0.9%            -33.7%
> hink-256K:      -5%             1%              -34.6%
>
>
> I used command:
> /usr/bin/time -f "\t%E real,\t%U user,\t%S sys" make -skj96 allmodconfig all
> to build kernel and collect the real time/user time/kernel time.
> /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled is "madvise".
> Let me know if you have any question about the test.
>
> I also find one strange behavior with this version. It's related with why
> I need to set the /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled to "madvise".
> If it's "never", the large folio is disabled either.
> If it's "always", the THP will be active before large folio. So the system is
> in the mixed mode. it's not suitable for this test.
>
> So if it's "never", large folio is disabled. But why "madvise" enables large
> folio unconditionly? Suppose it's only enabled for the VMA range which user
> madvise large folio (or THP)?

Indeed. It's a very peculiar behavior, as I called out in another email


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-04  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-26  9:51 [PATCH v4 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 16:41   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-27  4:31     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-28 10:13       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-01  6:36         ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-01 23:30           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-02  8:02           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02  9:04             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 13:51             ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-03  8:05         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03  8:21           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03  8:37             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03  9:32               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03  9:58                 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03 10:27                   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 10:54                     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-04  0:28           ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2023-08-01  6:18   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-02  9:33     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 21:05       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-03 10:24         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 12:43   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 14:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-08-04  0:19       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  2:16         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-04  3:35           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  9:06         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 18:53           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:00             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 23:50     ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04  8:27       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 20:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:00           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:26               ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:30                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:58                   ` Zi Yan
2023-08-05  2:50                     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-07 17:45                       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 18:10                         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-08  9:58                           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07  5:24   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:07     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 23:21       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08  9:37         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-08 17:57           ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08 18:12             ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-09 16:08               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26  9:51 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] selftests/mm/cow: Add large anon folio tests Ryan Roberts

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