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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
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Subject: Re: OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:18:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufamkHsCTckj5hBCTZoM-W-awdoQMVOP5_KswDW_VLJEoA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220831041731.3836322-1-yuzhao@google.com>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:17 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>
> TLDR
> ====
> RAM utilization  Throughput (95% CI)  P99 Latency (95% CI)
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> ~90%             NS                   NS
> ~110%            +[12, 16]%           -[20, 22]%
>
> Abbreviations
> =============
> CI:   confidence interval
> NS:   no statistically significant difference
> DUT:  device under test
> ATE:  automatic test equipment
>
> Rational
> ========
> 1. OpenWrt is the most popular distro for WiFi routers; many of its
>    targets use big endianness [1].
> 2. 4 out of the top 5 bestselling WiFi routers in the US use MIPS [2];
>    MIPS uses software-managed TLB.
> 3. Memcached is the best available memory benchmark on OpenWrt;
>    admittedly such a use case is very limited in the real world.

Thanks.

My goal is to encourage MM people to extend their test coverage to
some commonly used but less tested configurations. I carefully
constructed this benchmark with the balance between its
representativeness and the effort to reproduce.

When I wear my MM hat, I see ER-8 as the ideal choice because it comes
with a serial port, a replaceable memory DIMM and one of the two cores
that can be disabled. The same SoC is also what the Debian MIPS port
mainly uses for their testing [1]. So if I need help, I might be able
to get it from them.

From OpenWrt's / MIPS OEMs' POVs, I do see ER-8 as an uninteresting
platform. Currently the best selling WiFi router on Amazon US is
Archer A7, a knockoff of Archer C7. The latter comes with not only the
serial port header but also the JTAG header, and that's what I use.
But I seriously doubt showing how I work on C7 would encourage MM
people to try it. I snapped a pictures of it during lunch:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rYBwLOyMqBSr6WKUZd7Gbf9RfwA641X5/
And other boards I routinely test the MM performance on:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yBMx9OPWw-5czvz3maNUy6WBFwPvAqG5/
All the way dates back to this vintage:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12N21qiWSoyJgZwVkwAhY8_5Fj4dKftqD/

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/MIPSPort


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15  7:13 [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-09-01  9:18   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-02  1:17     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-02  1:28       ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-10-13 15:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:51     ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-19 17:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 14:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-20 17:29           ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-20 17:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 18:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21  2:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21  3:38                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-21 16:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-23 14:44                     ` David Gow
2022-10-23 17:55                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-23 18:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24  7:30                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-25 16:28                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-26 15:43                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-27 23:08                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-28  7:27                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-21 10:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 18:20                 ` Gareth Poole
2022-10-24 19:28                 ` Serentty
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  9:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-08-17 22:46     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-20  7:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:07   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-31  4:17 ` OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU Yu Zhao
2022-08-31 15:13   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-31 22:18   ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-09-12  0:08 ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton
2022-09-15 17:56   ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:40     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47       ` [PATCH v14-fix 01/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: update admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 02/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_use_mm() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 03/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: warn on !ptep_test_and_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47           ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-18 23:53             ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 04/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from __rcu Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 05/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from seq_is_valid() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 06/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete overcautious VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 07/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: dial down MAX_LRU_BATCH Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 08/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete newline in kswapd_age_node() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 09/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_look_around() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 10/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fixed long-tailed direct reclaim latency Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 11/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: refactor get_nr_evictable() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47       ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton

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