From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 17:50:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufaHH3Ctu3JRHSbmebHJ7XPnBEWTQ4mwOo+MGXU9yKvwbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c02a95e9-b728-ad64-6942-f23dbd66af0c@arm.com>
On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:43 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>
> + Kirill
>
> On 26/07/2023 10:51, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> > Introduce LARGE_ANON_FOLIO feature, which allows anonymous memory to be
> > allocated in large folios of a determined order. All pages of the large
> > folio are pte-mapped during the same page fault, significantly reducing
> > the number of page faults. The number of per-page operations (e.g. ref
> > counting, rmap management lru list management) are also significantly
> > reduced since those ops now become per-folio.
> >
> > The new behaviour is hidden behind the new LARGE_ANON_FOLIO Kconfig,
> > which defaults to disabled for now; The long term aim is for this to
> > defaut to enabled, but there are some risks around internal
> > fragmentation that need to be better understood first.
> >
> > When enabled, the folio order is determined as such: For a vma, process
> > or system that has explicitly disabled THP, we continue to allocate
> > order-0. THP is most likely disabled to avoid any possible internal
> > fragmentation so we honour that request.
> >
> > Otherwise, the return value of arch_wants_pte_order() is used. For vmas
> > that have not explicitly opted-in to use transparent hugepages (e.g.
> > where thp=madvise and the vma does not have MADV_HUGEPAGE), then
> > arch_wants_pte_order() is limited to 64K (or PAGE_SIZE, whichever is
> > bigger). This allows for a performance boost without requiring any
> > explicit opt-in from the workload while limitting internal
> > fragmentation.
> >
> > If the preferred order can't be used (e.g. because the folio would
> > breach the bounds of the vma, or because ptes in the region are already
> > mapped) then we fall back to a suitable lower order; first
> > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, then order-0.
> >
>
> ...
>
> > +#define ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED \
> > + (ilog2(max_t(unsigned long, SZ_64K, PAGE_SIZE)) - PAGE_SHIFT)
> > +
> > +static int anon_folio_order(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > +{
> > + int order;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * If THP is explicitly disabled for either the vma, the process or the
> > + * system, then this is very likely intended to limit internal
> > + * fragmentation; in this case, don't attempt to allocate a large
> > + * anonymous folio.
> > + *
> > + * Else, if the vma is eligible for thp, allocate a large folio of the
> > + * size preferred by the arch. Or if the arch requested a very small
> > + * size or didn't request a size, then use PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER,
> > + * which still meets the arch's requirements but means we still take
> > + * advantage of SW optimizations (e.g. fewer page faults).
> > + *
> > + * Finally if thp is enabled but the vma isn't eligible, take the
> > + * arch-preferred size and limit it to ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED.
> > + * This ensures workloads that have not explicitly opted-in take benefit
> > + * while capping the potential for internal fragmentation.
> > + */
> > +
> > + if ((vma->vm_flags & VM_NOHUGEPAGE) ||
> > + test_bit(MMF_DISABLE_THP, &vma->vm_mm->flags) ||
> > + !hugepage_flags_enabled())
> > + order = 0;
> > + else {
> > + order = max(arch_wants_pte_order(), PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER);
> > +
> > + if (!hugepage_vma_check(vma, vma->vm_flags, false, true, true))
> > + order = min(order, ANON_FOLIO_MAX_ORDER_UNHINTED);
> > + }
> > +
> > + return order;
> > +}
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm writing up the conclusions that we arrived at during discussion in the THP
> meeting yesterday, regarding linkage with exiting THP ABIs. It would be great if
> I can get explicit "agree" or disagree + rationale from at least David, Yu and
> Kirill.
>
> In summary; I think we are converging on the approach that is already coded, but
> I'd like confirmation.
>
>
>
> The THP situation today
> -----------------------
>
> - At system level: THP can be set to "never", "madvise" or "always"
> - At process level: THP can be "never" or "defer to system setting"
> - At VMA level: no-hint, MADV_HUGEPAGE, MADV_NOHUGEPAGE
>
> That gives us this table to describe how a page fault is handled, according to
> process state (columns) and vma flags (rows):
>
> | never | madvise | always
> ----------------|-----------|-----------|-----------
> no hint | S | S | THP>S
> MADV_HUGEPAGE | S | THP>S | THP>S
> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE | S | S | S
>
> Legend:
> S allocate single page (PTE-mapped)
> LAF allocate lage anon folio (PTE-mapped)
> THP allocate THP-sized folio (PMD-mapped)
> > fallback (usually because vma size/alignment insufficient for folio)
>
>
>
> Principles for Large Anon Folios (LAF)
> --------------------------------------
>
> David tells us there are use cases today (e.g. qemu live migration) which use
> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE to mean "don't fill any PTEs that are not explicitly faulted"
> and these use cases will break (i.e. functionally incorrect) if this request is
> not honoured.
I don't remember David saying this. I think he was referring to UFFD,
not MADV_NOHUGEPAGE, when discussing what we need to absolutely
respect.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-03 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-26 9:51 [PATCH v4 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 9:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 9:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm: LARGE_ANON_FOLIO for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 16:41 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-27 4:31 ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-28 10:13 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-01 6:36 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-01 23:30 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-02 8:02 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 9:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 13:51 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-03 8:05 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03 8:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 8:37 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03 9:32 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 9:58 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-03 10:27 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 10:54 ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-04 0:28 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-01 6:18 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-02 9:33 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 21:05 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-03 10:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 12:43 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 14:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-08-04 0:19 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 2:16 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-04 3:35 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 9:06 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 18:53 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 23:50 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2023-08-04 8:27 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-04 20:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:00 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:26 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-04 21:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-04 21:58 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-05 2:50 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-07 17:45 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 18:10 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-08 9:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 5:24 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-07 19:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-07 23:21 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08 9:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-08 17:57 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08 18:12 ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-09 16:08 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 9:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 9:51 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-07-26 9:51 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] selftests/mm/cow: Add large anon folio tests Ryan Roberts
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