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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	 Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/vmscan: check references from all memcgs for swapbacked memory
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 14:47:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufaDhmHwY_qd2z26k6vK=eCHudJL1Pp4xALP25iZfbSJWA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221005173713.1308832-1-yosryahmed@google.com>

On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 11:37 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
>
> During page/folio reclaim, we check if a folio is referenced using
> folio_referenced() to avoid reclaiming folios that have been recently
> accessed (hot memory). The rationale is that this memory is likely to be
> accessed soon, and hence reclaiming it will cause a refault.
>
> For memcg reclaim, we currently only check accesses to the folio from
> processes in the subtree of the target memcg. This behavior was
> originally introduced by commit bed7161a519a ("Memory controller: make
> page_referenced() cgroup aware") a long time ago. Back then, refaulted
> pages would get charged to the memcg of the process that was faulting them
> in. It made sense to only consider accesses coming from processes in the
> subtree of target_mem_cgroup. If a page was charged to memcg A but only
> being accessed by a sibling memcg B, we would reclaim it if memcg A is
> is the reclaim target. memcg B can then fault it back in and get charged
> for it appropriately.
>
> Today, this behavior still makes sense for file pages. However, unlike
> file pages, when swapbacked pages are refaulted they are charged to the
> memcg that was originally charged for them during swapping out. Which
> means that if a swapbacked page is charged to memcg A but only used by
> memcg B, and we reclaim it from memcg A, it would simply be faulted back
> in and charged again to memcg A once memcg B accesses it. In that sense,
> accesses from all memcgs matter equally when considering if a swapbacked
> page/folio is a viable reclaim target.
>
> Modify folio_referenced() to always consider accesses from all memcgs if
> the folio is swapbacked.

It seems to me this change can potentially increase the number of
zombie memcgs. Any risk assessment done on this?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-05 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-05 17:37 Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-05 19:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-10-05 20:47 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-10-05 21:01   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-05 21:13     ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-05 22:22       ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-05 22:45         ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-06  4:19       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-10-06  5:10         ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-06 15:38           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-10-06  7:30         ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-06 15:32           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-10-06 18:29             ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-06 21:56               ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-06 23:07                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-10-06 23:55                   ` Yu Zhao

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