From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: multi-gen LRU: retry folios written back while isolated
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 18:40:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufZuq_qMFam2EmOF=VHrnkNxH=1ytB1yqLzyK7nR9Kk4RA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3bfXVqb4nbJeE4t@google.com>
On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 6:26 PM Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 03:22:42PM -0700, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:47 AM Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 06:38:07PM -0700, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > > The page reclaim isolates a batch of folios from the tail of one of
> > > > the LRU lists and works on those folios one by one. For a suitable
> > > > swap-backed folio, if the swap device is async, it queues that folio
> > > > for writeback. After the page reclaim finishes an entire batch, it
> > > > puts back the folios it queued for writeback to the head of the
> > > > original LRU list.
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime, the page writeback flushes the queued folios also by
> > > > batches. Its batching logic is independent from that of the page
> > > > reclaim. For each of the folios it writes back, the page writeback
> > > > calls folio_rotate_reclaimable() which tries to rotate a folio to the
> > > > tail.
> > > >
> > > > folio_rotate_reclaimable() only works for a folio after the page
> > > > reclaim has put it back. If an async swap device is fast enough, the
> > > > page writeback can finish with that folio while the page reclaim is
> > > > still working on the rest of the batch containing it. In this case,
> > > > that folio will remain at the head and the page reclaim will not retry
> > > > it before reaching there.
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds a retry to evict_folios(). After evict_folios() has
> > > > finished an entire batch and before it puts back folios it cannot free
> > > > immediately, it retries those that may have missed the rotation.
> > >
> > > Can we make something like this?
> >
> > This works for both the active/inactive LRU and MGLRU.
>
> I hope we fix both altogether.
>
> >
> > But it's not my prefered way because of these two subtle differences:
> > 1. Folios eligible for retry take an unnecessary round trip below --
> > they are first added to the LRU list and then removed from there for
> > retry. For high speed swap devices, the LRU lock contention is already
> > quite high (>10% in CPU profile under heavy memory pressure). So I'm
> > hoping we can avoid this round trip.
> > 2. The number of retries of a folio on folio_wb_list is unlimited,
> > whereas this patch limits the retry to one. So in theory, we can spin
> > on a bunch of folios that keep failing.
> >
> > The most ideal solution would be to have the one-off retry logic in
> > shrink_folio_list(). But right now, that function is very cluttered. I
> > plan to refactor it (low priority at the moment), and probably after
> > that, we can add a generic retry for both the active/inactive LRU and
> > MGLRU. I'll raise its priority if you strongly prefer this. Please
> > feel free to let me know.
>
> Well, my preference for *ideal solution* is writeback completion drops
> page immediately without LRU rotating. IIRC, concern was softirq latency
> and locking relevant in the context at that time when I tried it.
Are we good for now or are there other ideas we want to try while we are at it?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-18 1:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-16 1:38 Yu Zhao
2022-11-16 1:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: multi-gen LRU: remove NULL checks on NODE_DATA() Yu Zhao
2022-11-16 3:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: multi-gen LRU: retry folios written back while isolated Yin, Fengwei
2022-11-16 3:55 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-16 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-17 0:12 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-17 7:46 ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-17 22:22 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-18 1:26 ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-18 1:40 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-11-18 21:25 ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-18 21:51 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-18 22:33 ` Minchan Kim
2022-11-18 23:21 ` Yu Zhao
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