From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] mm: split underutilized THPs
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:51:11 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufZG1qQuA=cvG+46VwvTrn8yU8nY06vC0JLuUj2hthcSWQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3e367bbb2d3f32532b54ad91facec3ff4fee686.camel@surriel.com>
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:33 PM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 15:54 -0600, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 01.08.24 08:09, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would recommend shatter [1] instead of splitting so that
> > > > 1) whoever underutilized their THPs get punished for the
> > > > overhead;
> > > > 2) underutilized THPs are kept intact and can be reused by
> > > > others.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/20240229183436.4110845-3-yuzhao@google.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you have any plans to upstream the shattering also during
> > > "ordinary"
> > > deferred splitting?
> >
> > Yes, once we finish verifying it in our production.
> >
>
> Shattering does seem like a nice improvement to the THP shrinker!
>
> However, given that the shattering code is still being verified,
> and the THP shrinker policy will no doubt need some tuning once
> more real world workloads get thrown at it, would it make sense
> to do those two things in parallel?
>
> We could move forward with the THP shrinker as-is today, and use
> the increased exposure it gets to fine tune the shrinking policy,
> and then move it over to using the shattering code once that is
> ready.
>
> Is there any good reason to serialize these two things?
I'm fine with whichever way you prefer: if you are eager to try
shattering in your production environment, I'd be incentivized to
throw in extra engineers and get it ready for you asap.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-05 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-30 12:45 Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] Revert "memcg: remove mem_cgroup_uncharge_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] Revert "mm: remove free_unref_page_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:02 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-05 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-06 9:58 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: don't remap unused subpages " Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:07 ` Rik van Riel
2024-07-31 17:08 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: add selftests to split_huge_page() to verify unmap/zap of zero pages Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:10 ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-01 4:45 ` kernel test robot
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: split underutilized THPs Usama Arif
2024-07-30 13:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-30 14:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] " David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 15:14 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:19 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 16:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 17:22 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 20:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 17:01 ` Usama Arif
2024-07-31 17:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 20:41 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01 6:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 23:04 ` Usama Arif
[not found] ` <20240806172830.GD322282@cmpxchg.org>
2024-08-06 17:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01 6:09 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-01 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 21:54 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-05 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-05 19:51 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2024-08-01 16:22 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01 16:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:10 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-04 23:32 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-04 23:23 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-06 11:18 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-06 17:38 ` Johannes Weiner
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