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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	 roman.gushchin@linux.dev, baohua@kernel.org,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com,  rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	cerasuolodomenico@gmail.com,  corbet@lwn.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] mm: split underutilized THPs
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 13:51:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufZG1qQuA=cvG+46VwvTrn8yU8nY06vC0JLuUj2hthcSWQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3e367bbb2d3f32532b54ad91facec3ff4fee686.camel@surriel.com>

On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:33 PM Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2024-08-04 at 15:54 -0600, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 9:47 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 01.08.24 08:09, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   I would recommend shatter [1] instead of splitting so that
> > > > 1) whoever underutilized their THPs get punished for the
> > > > overhead;
> > > > 2) underutilized THPs are kept intact and can be reused by
> > > > others.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/20240229183436.4110845-3-yuzhao@google.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you have any plans to upstream the shattering also during
> > > "ordinary"
> > > deferred splitting?
> >
> > Yes, once we finish verifying it in our production.
> >
>
> Shattering does seem like a nice improvement to the THP shrinker!
>
> However, given that the shattering code is still being verified,
> and the THP shrinker policy will no doubt need some tuning once
> more real world workloads get thrown at it, would it make sense
> to do those two things in parallel?
>
> We could move forward with the THP shrinker as-is today, and use
> the increased exposure it gets to fine tune the shrinking policy,
> and then move it over to using the shattering code once that is
> ready.
>
> Is there any good reason to serialize these two things?

I'm fine with whichever way you prefer: if you are eager to try
shattering in your production environment, I'd be incentivized to
throw in extra engineers and get it ready for you asap.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-30 12:45 Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/6] Revert "memcg: remove mem_cgroup_uncharge_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/6] Revert "mm: remove free_unref_page_list()" Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:02     ` Usama Arif
2024-08-05  9:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-06  9:58         ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: don't remap unused subpages " Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:07   ` Rik van Riel
2024-07-31 17:08     ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: add selftests to split_huge_page() to verify unmap/zap of zero pages Usama Arif
2024-07-30 18:10   ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-01  4:45   ` kernel test robot
2024-07-30 12:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: split underutilized THPs Usama Arif
2024-07-30 13:59   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-07-30 14:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] " David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 15:14   ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 15:19     ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 16:11       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-30 17:22         ` Usama Arif
2024-07-30 20:25           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 17:01             ` Usama Arif
2024-07-31 17:51               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-31 20:41                 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01  6:36                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 23:04                     ` Usama Arif
     [not found]                     ` <20240806172830.GD322282@cmpxchg.org>
2024-08-06 17:33                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-01  6:09 ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-01 15:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 21:54     ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-05  1:32       ` Rik van Riel
2024-08-05 19:51         ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2024-08-01 16:22   ` Usama Arif
2024-08-01 16:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 19:10       ` Usama Arif
2024-08-04 23:32       ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-04 23:23     ` Yu Zhao
2024-08-06 11:18       ` Usama Arif
2024-08-06 17:38   ` Johannes Weiner

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