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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] tmpfs: Support 64-bit inums per-sb
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 08:54:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjvH=UagqjHP_71_p9_dW9wKqiaWujzY1xKe7yZVFPoTA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107003944.GN23195@dread.disaster.area>

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:40 AM Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 12:16:43AM +0000, Chris Down wrote:
> > Dave Chinner writes:
> > > It took 15 years for us to be able to essentially deprecate
> > > inode32 (inode64 is the default behaviour), and we were very happy
> > > to get that albatross off our necks.  In reality, almost everything
> > > out there in the world handles 64 bit inodes correctly
> > > including 32 bit machines and 32bit binaries on 64 bit machines.
> > > And, IMNSHO, there no excuse these days for 32 bit binaries that
> > > don't using the *64() syscall variants directly and hence support
> > > 64 bit inodes correctlyi out of the box on all platforms.
> > >
> > > I don't think we should be repeating past mistakes by trying to
> > > cater for broken 32 bit applications on 64 bit machines in this day
> > > and age.
> >
> > I'm very glad to hear that. I strongly support moving to 64-bit inums in all
> > cases if there is precedent that it's not a compatibility issue, but from
> > the comments on my original[0] patch (especially that they strayed from the
> > original patches' change to use ino_t directly into slab reuse), I'd been
> > given the impression that it was known to be one.
> >
> > From my perspective I have no evidence that inode32 is needed other than the
> > comment from Jeff above get_next_ino. If that turns out not to be a problem,
> > I am more than happy to just wholesale migrate 64-bit inodes per-sb in
> > tmpfs.
>
> Well, that's my comment above about 32 bit apps using non-LFS
> compliant interfaces in this day and age. It's essentially a legacy
> interface these days, and anyone trying to access a modern linux
> filesystem (btrfs, XFS, ext4, etc) ion 64 bit systems need to handle
> 64 bit inodes because they all can create >32bit inode numbers
> in their default configurations.
>

Chris,

Following Dave's comment, let's keep the config option, but make it
default to Y and remove the mount option for now.
If somebody shouts, mount option could be re-added later.
This way at least we leave an option for workaround for an unlikely
breakage.

Thanks,
Amir.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-07  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-05 12:05 [PATCH v5 0/2] fs: inode: shmem: Reduce risk of inum overflow Chris Down
2020-01-05 12:06 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] tmpfs: Add per-superblock i_ino support Chris Down
2020-01-06  2:03   ` zhengbin (A)
2020-01-06  6:41     ` Amir Goldstein
2020-01-07  8:01       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-07  8:35         ` Amir Goldstein
2020-01-08 10:58           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-08 12:51             ` Amir Goldstein
2020-01-06 13:17     ` Chris Down
2020-01-05 12:06 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] tmpfs: Support 64-bit inums per-sb Chris Down
2020-01-07  0:10   ` Dave Chinner
2020-01-07  0:16     ` Chris Down
2020-01-07  0:39       ` Dave Chinner
2020-01-07  6:54         ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2020-01-07  8:36           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-07 10:12             ` Amir Goldstein
2020-01-07 21:07               ` Dave Chinner
2020-01-07 21:37                 ` Chris Mason
2020-01-08 11:24                   ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-09  0:43                     ` Jeff Layton
2020-01-10 16:45                     ` Chris Down
2020-01-13  7:36                       ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-20 15:11                         ` Chris Down
2020-02-25 23:14                           ` Hugh Dickins
2020-01-07 20:59             ` Dave Chinner
2020-01-08 14:37     ` Mikael Magnusson
2020-01-13  6:58       ` Hugh Dickins

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