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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 brauner@kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,  linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 10/19] fanotify: introduce FAN_PRE_ACCESS permission event
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:18:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxhTiR8eHaf4q0_gLC62CWi9KdaQ05GSeqFkKFkXCH++PA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241121104428.wtlrfhadcvipkjia@quack3>

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:44 AM Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On Fri 15-11-24 10:30:23, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
> >
> > Similar to FAN_ACCESS_PERM permission event, but it is only allowed with
> > class FAN_CLASS_PRE_CONTENT and only allowed on regular files and dirs.
> >
> > Unlike FAN_ACCESS_PERM, it is safe to write to the file being accessed
> > in the context of the event handler.
> >
> > This pre-content event is meant to be used by hierarchical storage
> > managers that want to fill the content of files on first read access.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
>
> Here I was wondering about one thing:
>
> > +     /*
> > +      * Filesystems need to opt-into pre-content evnets (a.k.a HSM)
> > +      * and they are only supported on regular files and directories.
> > +      */
> > +     if (mask & FANOTIFY_PRE_CONTENT_EVENTS) {
> > +             if (!(path->mnt->mnt_sb->s_iflags & SB_I_ALLOW_HSM))
> > +                     return -EINVAL;
> > +             if (!is_dir && !d_is_reg(path->dentry))
> > +                     return -EINVAL;
> > +     }
>
> AFAICS, currently no pre-content events are generated for directories. So
> perhaps we should refuse directories here as well for now? I'd like to

readdir() does emit PRE_ACCESS (without a range) and also always
emitted ACCESS_PERM. my POC is using that PRE_ACCESS to populate
directories on-demand, although the functionality is incomplete without the
"populate on lookup" event.

> avoid the mistake of original fanotify which had some events available on
> directories but they did nothing and then you have to ponder hard whether
> you're going to break userspace if you actually start emitting them...

But in any case, the FAN_ONDIR built-in filter is applicable to PRE_ACCESS.

Thanks,
Amir.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-15 15:30 [PATCH v8 00/19] fanotify: add pre-content hooks Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 01/19] fs: get rid of __FMODE_NONOTIFY kludge Josef Bacik
2024-11-18 18:14   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 02/19] fsnotify: opt-in for permission events at file open time Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:53   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:12     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21  9:39       ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 10:09         ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-21 11:04           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 11:16             ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 11:32               ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21  9:45     ` Christian Brauner
2024-11-21 11:39       ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 03/19] fsnotify: add helper to check if file is actually being watched Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 16:02   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:42     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21  8:54       ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 04/19] fanotify: don't skip extra event info if no info_mode is set Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 05/19] fanotify: rename a misnamed constant Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 06/19] fanotify: reserve event bit of deprecated FAN_DIR_MODIFY Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 07/19] fsnotify: introduce pre-content permission events Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 08/19] fsnotify: pass optional file access range in pre-content event Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 09/19] fsnotify: generate pre-content permission event on truncate Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:23   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 15:57     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-20 16:16       ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 10/19] fanotify: introduce FAN_PRE_ACCESS permission event Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:59   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 10:44   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 14:18     ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2024-11-21 16:36       ` Jan Kara
2024-11-21 18:31         ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-21 18:37           ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-22 12:42             ` Jan Kara
2024-11-22 13:51               ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-27 12:18                 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-27 12:20                   ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 11/19] fanotify: report file range info with pre-content events Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 12/19] fanotify: allow to set errno in FAN_DENY permission response Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 13/19] fanotify: add a helper to check for pre content events Josef Bacik
2024-11-20 15:44   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-20 16:43     ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 14/19] fanotify: disable readahead if we have pre-content watches Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 15/19] mm: don't allow huge faults for files with pre content watches Josef Bacik
2025-01-31 19:17   ` [REGRESSION] " Alex Williamson
2025-01-31 19:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-01  1:19       ` Peter Xu
2025-02-01 14:38         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-02  0:58           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02  7:46             ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-02 10:04               ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-03 12:41                 ` Jan Kara
2025-02-03 20:39                   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-03 21:41                     ` Alex Williamson
2025-02-03 22:04                       ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 16/19] fsnotify: generate pre-content permission event on page fault Josef Bacik
2024-12-08 16:58   ` Klara Modin
2024-12-09 10:45     ` Aithal, Srikanth
2024-12-09 12:34       ` Jan Kara
2024-12-09 12:31     ` Jan Kara
2024-12-09 12:56       ` Klara Modin
2024-12-09 14:16         ` Jan Kara
2024-12-10 21:12     ` Randy Dunlap
2024-12-11 16:30       ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 17/19] xfs: add pre-content fsnotify hook for write faults Josef Bacik
2024-11-21 10:22   ` Jan Kara
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 18/19] btrfs: disable defrag on pre-content watched files Josef Bacik
2024-11-15 15:30 ` [PATCH v8 19/19] fs: enable pre-content events on supported file systems Josef Bacik
2024-11-21 11:29 ` [PATCH v8 00/19] fanotify: add pre-content hooks Jan Kara

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