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[209.85.220.41]) by mx.google.com with SMTPS id x129sor7363180ybb.63.2019.02.13.01.01.38 for (Google Transport Security); Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of amir73il@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.41; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=VIMY0KrK; spf=pass (google.com: domain of amir73il@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=amir73il@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nOxAq2jgYrMbNTBlWFr73Rc+ViApmre//M8IaWoP5S0=; b=VIMY0KrK4iSNyI1HGmm4jPV9TrQ8QlHaQh+ToWWJjoo8CPj15twvFmLLdUrKhTAEuC biSzvOM4rUQMNMRSLiF8FC5/cdnQm8YeFA83kwKe9KrxnJpJ/H1JqWy0QIeMiUnEFmOH AoGIq6s8Hf8lnYLG+tbwxlDl3CX3zGKbHSkAvuelpni4+TJUfm3tTR/sEgAK5F7qCN7J X+B+k2wB5QutnnTROe8xnwDeO0DIPSvEa3LTswwjR/YISSO4/IgEqSio+8bUdv5vFCCy KuM/DtIYgwC5ImjMq7rtXguacejHqDPZc+bsS2Te3hQ0t9AREltbQK1D8ba7bAqaH85v k4YA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IZIW2qaSfMP7UCdKZdSY60xgXrV4aT4hPX+oDKBJgV5JMHXw6PQsG1u07u6EgbYCN/CakP8YSOXqaenfqEulHM= X-Received: by 2002:a25:9c09:: with SMTP id c9mr6796704ybo.462.1550048497909; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:01:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190212170012.GF69686@sasha-vm> <20190213073707.GA2875@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20190213073707.GA2875@kroah.com> From: Amir Goldstein Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:01:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] FS, MM, and stable trees To: Greg KH Cc: Steve French , Sasha Levin , lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel , linux-mm , LKML , "Luis R. Rodriguez" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:37 AM Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 09:20:00AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: > > I never saw an email from you or Greg saying, the branch "stable-xxx" is > > in review. Please run your tests. > > That is what my "Subject: [PATCH 4.9 000/137] 4.9.156-stable review" > type emails are supposed to kick off. They are sent both to the stable > mailing list and lkml. > > This message already starts the testing systems going for a number of > different groups out there, do you want to be added to the cc: list so > you get them directly? > No thanks, I'll fix my email filters ;-) I think the main difference between these review announcements and true CI is what kind of guaranty you get for a release candidate from NOT getting a test failure response, which is one of the main reasons that where holding back xfs stable fixes for so long. Best effort testing in timely manner is good, but a good way to improve confidence in stable kernel releases is a publicly available list of tests that the release went through. Do you have any such list of tests that you *know* are being run, that you (or Sasha) run yourself or that you actively wait on an ACK from a group before a release? Thanks, Amir.