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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] vmevent: Implement greater-than attribute state and one-shot mode
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:57:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOJsxLHdy8pBCBmbYfiHL681Bd=p_XPXjJHgVKqhT9nYquAjOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA0C042.9010907@kernel.org>

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> I think hardest problem in low mem notification is how to define _lowmem situation_.
> We all guys (server, desktop and embedded) should reach a conclusion on define lowmem situation
> before progressing further implementation because each part can require different limits.
> Hopefully, I want it.
>
> What is the best situation we can call it as "low memory"?

Looking at real-world scenarios, it seems to be totally dependent on
userspace policy.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
> As a matter of fact, if we can define it well, I think even we don't need vmevent ABI.
> In my opinion, it's not easy to generalize each use-cases so we can pass it to user space and
> just export low attributes of vmstat in kernel by vmevent.
> Userspace program can determine low mem situation well on his environment with other vmstats
> when notification happens. Of course, it has a drawback that userspace couples kernel's vmstat
> but at least I think that's why we need vmevent for triggering event when we start watching carefully.

Please keep in mind that VM events is not only about "low memory"
notification. The ABI might be useful for other kinds of VM events as
well.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-18  8:32 [PATCH v2 0/2] vmevent: Greater-than attribute + one-shot mode + a bugfix Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-18  8:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] vmevent: Should not grab mutex in the atomic context Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-18 20:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-04-18  8:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] vmevent: Implement greater-than attribute and one-shot mode Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-18 20:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-04-18 22:46     ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-19  5:42       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-04-19 16:29         ` [PATCH v3 " Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:18           ` [PATCH v4] vmevent: Implement greater-than attribute state " Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 21:04             ` Rik van Riel
2012-05-02  0:20               ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-02  1:20                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-02  3:31                   ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-02  3:50                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-02  5:04                     ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-02  6:46                       ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-02  6:57                       ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2012-05-02  7:41                         ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-02  6:51                   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 10:52             ` Pekka Enberg

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