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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, Kees Cook <kees@ubuntu.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to /proc/slabinfo
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:21:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOJsxLFe=i=TUbHuppHTSWPE1DXUw_fSujpR4Kn65_aXr4Hrdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1316455395.16137.160.camel@nimitz>

On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 20:51 +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>> How is the attacker able to identify that we kmalloc()'d from ecryptfs or
>> VFS based on non-root /proc/slabinfo when the slab allocator itself does
>> not have that sort of information if you mix up the allocations? Isn't this
>> much stronger protection especially if you combine that with /proc/slabinfo
>> restriction?

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> Mixing it up just adds noise.  It makes the attack somewhat more
> difficult, but it still leaves open the possibility that the attacker
> can filter out the noise somehow.

So that would mean the attacker has somewhat fine-grained control over
kernel memory allocations, no? Can they use /proc/meminfo to deduce
the same kind of information? Should we close that down too?

                         Pekka

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-19 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110910164001.GA2342@albatros>
2011-09-10 16:41 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-12 15:06   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-13  6:28     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 13:16   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 15:18     ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 15:42       ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 15:48         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 18:24         ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 18:41   ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 19:14     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 19:27   ` Kees Cook
2011-09-18 17:05     ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 13:42       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 14:30       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 14:46         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 15:13           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 15:57             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 16:11               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 16:18                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 17:31                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 17:35                     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 17:51                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 19:59                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 20:02                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 20:36                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 17:51                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 17:58                         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 18:46                           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 18:55                             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 19:20                               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 19:33                               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 18:55                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-19 19:18                               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 19:45                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 20:59                                 ` David Rientjes
2011-09-19 18:03                         ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-19 18:21                           ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2011-09-19 19:45           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 19:55             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-21 17:05               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-22  2:20                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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