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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
To: Li Wang <liwang@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	longman@redhat.com, yosryahmed@google.com,  nphamcs@gmail.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org, mkoutny@suse.com,
	 muchun.song@linux.dev, tj@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	 shakeel.butt@linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/7] selftests/cgroup: improve zswap tests robustness and support large page sizes
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 13:28:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO9r8zOCGWSX1+t8-5qe+04UZ6i4mChPJ8hkpiS5Z8pAPZ0sZg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acKAr0TYzuYPxH4A@redhat.com>

> > Sashiko claims that 512 pages will end up consuming 11K to 15K in
> > zswap with this setup, do you know what the actual number is?
>
> Not very sure, I guess each 64K page contains 1 byte of 'a' and 65535 bytes
> of zero. A single page like that compresses down to roughly 20–30 bytes
> (a short literal plus a very long zero run, plus frame/header overhead).
> So the estimate is roughly 512 × 25 bytes ≈ 12.8 KB, which is where the
> "11 to 15 kilobytes" ballpark comes from.
>
> > Especially with different compressors? If it's close to 64K, this
> > might be a problem.
>
> Yes, good point, when I swith to use 'zstd' compressor, it doesn't work.
>
> > Maybe we can fill half of each page with increasing values? It should
> > still be compressible but not too compressible.
>
> I tried, this method works on Lzo algorithm but not Zstd.
> Anyway, I am still investigating.

Do you mean the compressibility is still very high on zstd? I vaguely
remember filling a page with repeating patterns (e.g. alphabet
letters) seemed to produce a decent compression ratio, but I don't
remember the specifics.

I am pretty sure an LLM could figure out what values will work for
different compression algorithms :)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-24 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-22  6:10 Li Wang
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] selftests/cgroup: skip test_zswap if zswap is globally disabled Li Wang
2026-03-24  0:13   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-24  6:46     ` Li Wang
2026-03-27 18:21   ` Nhat Pham
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] selftests/cgroup: avoid OOM in test_swapin_nozswap Li Wang
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] selftests/cgroup: use runtime page size for zswpin check Li Wang
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] selftests/cgroup: rename PAGE_SIZE to BUF_SIZE in cgroup_util Li Wang
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] selftests/cgroup: replace hardcoded page size values in test_zswap Li Wang
2026-03-24  0:05   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] selftest/cgroup: fix zswap test_no_invasive_cgroup_shrink on large pagesize system Li Wang
2026-03-22  6:10 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] selftest/cgroup: fix zswap attempt_writeback() on 64K " Li Wang
2026-03-22 16:18 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] selftests/cgroup: improve zswap tests robustness and support large page sizes Andrew Morton
2026-03-23  3:23   ` Li Wang
2026-03-24  0:12     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-24 12:16       ` Li Wang
2026-03-24 20:28         ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2026-03-25  2:26           ` Li Wang
2026-03-25  2:49             ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-25  6:12               ` Li Wang
2026-03-25  6:17                 ` Li Wang
2026-03-25  7:21                   ` Li Wang

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