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From: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: LKMM Maintainers -- Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/8] kcsan: Add Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer infrastructure
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 13:02:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANpmjNOOT+KR7m8KpETk1czyJLr3TeHsvvejwyuY3JXKr=eajg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191023162432.GC14327@redhat.com>

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 18:24, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/22, Marco Elver wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 17:49, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just for example. Suppose that task->state = TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, this task
> > > does __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING), another CPU does wake_up_process(task)
> > > which does the same UNINTERRUPTIBLE -> RUNNING transition.
> > >
> > > Looks like, this is the "data race" according to kcsan?
> >
> > Yes, they are "data races". They are probably not "race conditions" though.
> >
> > This is a fair distinction to make, and we never claimed to find "race
> > conditions" only
>
> I see, thanks, just wanted to be sure...
>
> > KCSAN's goal is to find *data races* according to the LKMM.  Some data
> > races are race conditions (usually the more interesting bugs) -- but
> > not *all* data races are race conditions. Those are what are usually
> > referred to as "benign", but they can still become bugs on the wrong
> > arch/compiler combination. Hence, the need to annotate these accesses
> > with READ_ONCE, WRITE_ONCE or use atomic_t:
>
> Well, if I see READ_ONCE() in the code I want to understand why it was
> used. Is it really needed for correctness or we want to shut up kcsan?
> Say, why should wait_event(wq, *ptr) use READ_ONCE()? Nevermind, please
> forget.
>
> Btw, why __kcsan_check_watchpoint() does user_access_save() before
> try_consume_watchpoint() ?

Instrumentation is added in UACCESS regions. Since we do not access
user-memory, we do user_access_save to ensure everything is safe
(otherwise objtool complains that we do calls to non-whitelisted
functions). I will try to optimize this a bit, but we can't avoid it.

> Oleg.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-24 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-17 14:12 [PATCH v2 0/8] Add Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer (KCSAN) Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] kcsan: Add Kernel Concurrency Sanitizer infrastructure Marco Elver
2019-10-21 13:37   ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-10-21 15:54     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-22 14:11   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-22 16:52     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-22 15:48   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-10-22 17:42     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-23 16:24       ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-10-24 11:02         ` Marco Elver [this message]
2019-10-23  9:41   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23  9:56   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 10:03   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 10:09   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 10:28   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 11:08   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 11:20   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 12:05   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-23 12:32   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-17 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] objtool, kcsan: Add KCSAN runtime functions to whitelist Marco Elver
2019-10-21 15:15   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-21 15:43     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] build, kcsan: Add KCSAN build exceptions Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] seqlock, kcsan: Add annotations for KCSAN Marco Elver
2019-10-24 12:28   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-24 14:17     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-24 16:35       ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-24 17:09         ` Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] seqlock: Require WRITE_ONCE surrounding raw_seqcount_barrier Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] asm-generic, kcsan: Add KCSAN instrumentation for bitops Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] locking/atomics, kcsan: Add KCSAN instrumentation Marco Elver
2019-10-22 12:33   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-22 18:17     ` Marco Elver
2019-10-17 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] x86, kcsan: Enable KCSAN for x86 Marco Elver
2019-10-22 12:59   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-22 13:02     ` Marco Elver

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