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From: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	 Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] lib/stackdepot: Add a refcount field in stack_record
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 12:20:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANpmjNO0wzGBOcj1NH+O7AG2c31Q=-ZDwYZENmYmzUQcPZhQEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YxCC7zoc3wX3ieMR@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 12:01, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 01-09-22 11:18:19, Marco Elver wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sept 2022 at 10:38, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu 01-09-22 10:24:58, Marco Elver wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2022 at 06:42AM +0200, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > diff --git a/lib/stackdepot.c b/lib/stackdepot.c
> > > > > index 5ca0d086ef4a..aeb59d3557e2 100644
> > > > > --- a/lib/stackdepot.c
> > > > > +++ b/lib/stackdepot.c
> > > > > @@ -63,6 +63,7 @@ struct stack_record {
> > > > >     u32 hash;                       /* Hash in the hastable */
> > > > >     u32 size;                       /* Number of frames in the stack */
> > > > >     union handle_parts handle;
> > > > > +   refcount_t count;               /* Number of the same repeated stacks */
> > > >
> > > > This will increase stack_record size for every user, even if they don't
> > > > care about the count.
> > >
> > > Couldn't this be used for garbage collection?
> >
> > Only if we can precisely figure out at which point a stack is no
> > longer going to be needed.
> >
> > But more realistically, stack depot was designed to be simple. Right
> > now it can allocate new stacks (from an internal pool), but giving the
> > memory back to that pool isn't supported. Doing garbage collection
> > would effectively be a redesign of stack depot.
>
> Fair argument.
>
> > And for the purpose
> > for which stack depot was designed (debugging tools), memory has never
> > been an issue (note that stack depot also has a fixed upper bound on
> > memory usage).
>
> Is the increased size really a blocker then? I see how it sucks to
> maintain a counter when it is not used by anything but page_owner but
> storing that counte externally would just add more complexity AFAICS
> (more allocations, more tracking etc.).

Right, I think keeping it simple is better.

> Maybe the counter can be conditional on the page_owner which would add
> some complexity as well (variable size structure) but at least the
> external allocation stuff could be avoided.

Not sure it's needed - I just checked the size of stack_record on a
x86-64 build, and it's 24 bytes. Because 'handle_parts' is 4 bytes,
and refcount_t is 4 bytes, and the alignment of 'entries' being 8
bytes, even with the refcount_t, stack_record is still 24 bytes. :-)

And for me that's good enough. Maybe mentioning this in the commit
message is worthwhile. Of course 32-bit builds still suffer a little,
but I think we can live with that.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-01 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-01  4:42 [PATCH 0/3] page_owner: print stacks and their counter Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  4:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] lib/stackdepot: Add a refcount field in stack_record Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  8:24   ` Marco Elver
2022-09-01  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-01  9:18       ` Marco Elver
2022-09-01 10:01         ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-01 10:20           ` Marco Elver [this message]
2022-09-05 20:53         ` Andrey Konovalov
2022-09-02  3:27     ` Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  4:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, page_owner: Add page_owner_stacks file to print out only stacks and their counter Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  8:16   ` Ammar Faizi
2022-09-02  3:33     ` Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01 19:29   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-02  0:56   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-01  4:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,page_owner: Filter out stacks by a threshold counter Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  8:31   ` Ammar Faizi
2022-09-02  3:36     ` Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  8:40   ` Michal Hocko
2022-09-02  3:37     ` Oscar Salvador
2022-09-01  8:32 ` [PATCH 0/3] page_owner: print stacks and their counter Michal Hocko

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