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From: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
To: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Cc: quic_charante@quicinc.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	 aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	david@redhat.com,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	 osalvador@suse.de, vbabka@suse.cz,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	 Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,  Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Miehlbradt <nicholas@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/sparsemem: fix race in accessing memory_section->usage
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:34:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANpmjNMP802yN0i6puHHKX5E1PZ_6_h1x9nkGHCXZ4DVabxy7A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240115184430.2710652-1-glider@google.com>

On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 19:44, Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com> wrote:
>
> Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
> Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
> Cc: kasan-dev@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>
> Cc: Nicholas Miehlbradt <nicholas@linux.ibm.com>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> (adding KMSAN reviewers and IBM people who are currently porting KMSAN to other
> architectures, plus Paul for his opinion on refactoring RCU)
>
> this patch broke x86 KMSAN in a subtle way.
>
> For every memory access in the code instrumented by KMSAN we call
> kmsan_get_metadata() to obtain the metadata for the memory being accessed. For
> virtual memory the metadata pointers are stored in the corresponding `struct
> page`, therefore we need to call virt_to_page() to get them.
>
> According to the comment in arch/x86/include/asm/page.h, virt_to_page(kaddr)
> returns a valid pointer iff virt_addr_valid(kaddr) is true, so KMSAN needs to
> call virt_addr_valid() as well.
>
> To avoid recursion, kmsan_get_metadata() must not call instrumented code,
> therefore ./arch/x86/include/asm/kmsan.h forks parts of arch/x86/mm/physaddr.c
> to check whether a virtual address is valid or not.
>
> But the introduction of rcu_read_lock() to pfn_valid() added instrumented RCU
> API calls to virt_to_page_or_null(), which is called by kmsan_get_metadata(),
> so there is an infinite recursion now. I do not think it is correct to stop that
> recursion by doing kmsan_enter_runtime()/kmsan_exit_runtime() in
> kmsan_get_metadata(): that would prevent instrumented functions called from
> within the runtime from tracking the shadow values, which might introduce false
> positives.
>
> I am currently looking into inlining __rcu_read_lock()/__rcu_read_unlock(), into
> KMSAN code to prevent it from being instrumented, but that might require factoring
> out parts of kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h into a non-private header. Do you think this
> is feasible?

__rcu_read_lock/unlock() is only outlined in PREEMPT_RCU. Not sure that helps.

Otherwise, there is rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace() which does the bare
minimum and is static inline.

Does that help?

> Another option is to cut some edges in the code calling virt_to_page(). First,
> my observation is that virt_addr_valid() is quite rare in the kernel code, i.e.
> not all cases of calling virt_to_page() are covered with it. Second, every
> memory access to KMSAN metadata residing in virt_to_page(kaddr)->shadow always
> accompanies an access to `kaddr` itself, so if there is a race on a PFN then
> the access to `kaddr` will probably also trigger a fault. Third, KMSAN metadata
> accesses are inherently non-atomic, and even if we ensure pfn_valid() is
> returning a consistent value for a single memory access, calling it twice may
> already return different results.
>
> Considering the above, how bad would it be to drop synchronization for KMSAN's
> version of pfn_valid() called from kmsan_virt_addr_valid()?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-15 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 13:04 Charan Teja Kalla
2023-10-14 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-16  8:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 13:38     ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-10-16 22:34       ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-18  7:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-16 10:33 ` Pavan Kondeti
2023-10-17 14:10   ` Charan Teja Kalla
2023-10-17 14:53     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-25 21:35     ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-26  7:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-26  7:18         ` Charan Teja Kalla
2024-01-15 18:44 ` Alexander Potapenko
2024-01-15 20:34   ` Marco Elver [this message]
2024-01-17 19:18     ` Marco Elver
2024-01-18  9:01       ` Alexander Potapenko
2024-01-18  9:43         ` Marco Elver
2024-01-25 13:20           ` Paul E. McKenney

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