From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 08/14] mlx4: use order-0 pages for RX
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:57:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89iJip45peBQB9Tn1mWVg+1QYZH+01CqkAUctd3xqwPw8Zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ccc4cb9e-9863-02e1-2789-4869aea3c661@mellanox.com>
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't it the same principle in page_frag_alloc() ?
> It is called form __netdev_alloc_skb()/__napi_alloc_skb().
>
> Why is it ok to have order-3 pages (PAGE_FRAG_CACHE_MAX_ORDER) there?
This is not ok.
This is a very well known problem, we already mentioned that here in the past,
but at least core networking stack uses order-0 pages on PowerPC.
mlx4 driver suffers from this problem 100% more than other drivers ;)
One problem at a time Tariq. Right now, only mlx4 has this big problem
compared to other NIC.
Then, if we _still_ hit major issues, we might also need to force
napi_get_frags()
to allocate skb->head using kmalloc() instead of a page frag.
That is a very simple fix.
Remember that we have skb->truesize that is an approximation, it will
never be completely accurate,
but we need to make it better.
mlx4 driver pretends to have a frag truesize of 1536 bytes, but this
is obviously wrong when host is under memory pressure
(2 frags per page -> truesize should be 2048)
> By using netdev/napi_alloc_skb, you'll get that the SKB's linear data is a
> frag of a huge page,
> and it is not going to be freed before the other non-linear frags.
> Cannot this cause the same threats (memory pinning and so...)?
>
> Currently, mlx4 doesn't use this generic API, while most other drivers do.
>
> Similar claims are true for TX:
> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/5640f7685831e088fe6c2e1f863a6805962f8e81
We do not have such problem on TX. GFP_KERNEL allocations do not have
the same issues.
Tasks are usually not malicious in our DC, and most serious
applications use memcg or such memory control.
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2017-02-14 12:12 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 13:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 14:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 14:56 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-14 15:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 16:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 17:29 ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-15 16:42 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-15 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2017-02-16 13:08 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-02-16 15:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-16 17:05 ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-16 17:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-16 20:49 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-02-16 19:03 ` David Miller
2017-02-16 21:06 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-02-14 17:04 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 17:17 ` David Laight
2017-02-14 17:22 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 19:38 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 19:59 ` David Miller
2017-02-14 17:29 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-14 18:46 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 19:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 20:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-14 21:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-14 19:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-14 19:50 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
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