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From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
To: "Zhang, Cathy" <cathy.zhang@intel.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 "Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Srinivas, Suresh" <suresh.srinivas@intel.com>,
	 "Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"You, Lizhen" <lizhen.you@intel.com>,
	 "eric.dumazet@gmail.com" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] net: Keep sk->sk_forward_alloc as a proper size
Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 13:24:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANn89i+9rQcGey+AJyhR02pTTBNhWN+P78e4a8knfC9F5sx0hQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CH3PR11MB7345ABB947E183AFB7C18322FC779@CH3PR11MB7345.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 1:11 PM Zhang, Cathy <cathy.zhang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Shakeel, Eric and all,
>
> How about adding memory pressure checking in sk_mem_uncharge()
> to decide if keep part of memory or not, which can help avoid the issue
> you fixed and the problem we find on the system with more CPUs.
>
> The code draft is like this:
>
> static inline void sk_mem_uncharge(struct sock *sk, int size)
> {
>         int reclaimable;
>         int reclaim_threshold = SK_RECLAIM_THRESHOLD;
>
>         if (!sk_has_account(sk))
>                 return;
>         sk->sk_forward_alloc += size;
>
>         if (mem_cgroup_sockets_enabled && sk->sk_memcg &&
>             mem_cgroup_under_socket_pressure(sk->sk_memcg)) {
>                 sk_mem_reclaim(sk);
>                 return;
>         }
>
>         reclaimable = sk->sk_forward_alloc - sk_unused_reserved_mem(sk);
>
>         if (reclaimable > reclaim_threshold) {
>                 reclaimable -= reclaim_threshold;
>                 __sk_mem_reclaim(sk, reclaimable);
>         }
> }
>
> I've run a test with the new code, the result looks good, it does not introduce
> latency, RPS is the same.
>

It will not work for sockets that are idle, after a burst.
If we restore per socket caches, we will need a shrinker.
Trust me, we do not want that kind of big hammer, crushing latencies.

Have you tried to increase batch sizes ?

Any kind of cache (even per-cpu) might need some adjustment when core
count or expected traffic is increasing.
This was somehow hinted in
commit 1813e51eece0ad6f4aacaeb738e7cced46feb470
Author: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Date:   Thu Aug 25 00:05:06 2022 +0000

    memcg: increase MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH to 64



diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
index 222d7370134c73e59fdbdf598ed8d66897dbbf1d..0418229d30c25d114132a1ed46ac01358cf21424
100644
--- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
+++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
@@ -334,7 +334,7 @@ struct mem_cgroup {
  * TODO: maybe necessary to use big numbers in big irons or dynamic
based of the
  * workload.
  */
-#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH 64U
+#define MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH 128U

 extern struct mem_cgroup *root_mem_cgroup;

diff --git a/include/net/sock.h b/include/net/sock.h
index 656ea89f60ff90d600d16f40302000db64057c64..82f6a288be650f886b207e6a5e62a1d5dda808b0
100644
--- a/include/net/sock.h
+++ b/include/net/sock.h
@@ -1433,8 +1433,8 @@ sk_memory_allocated(const struct sock *sk)
        return proto_memory_allocated(sk->sk_prot);
 }

-/* 1 MB per cpu, in page units */
-#define SK_MEMORY_PCPU_RESERVE (1 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT))
+/* 2 MB per cpu, in page units */
+#define SK_MEMORY_PCPU_RESERVE (1 << (21 - PAGE_SHIFT))

 static inline void
 sk_memory_allocated_add(struct sock *sk, int amt)






> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 12:10 AM
> > To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>; Linux MM <linux-
> > mm@kvack.org>; Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>
> > Cc: Zhang, Cathy <cathy.zhang@intel.com>; Paolo Abeni
> > <pabeni@redhat.com>; davem@davemloft.net; kuba@kernel.org;
> > Brandeburg, Jesse <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>; Srinivas, Suresh
> > <suresh.srinivas@intel.com>; Chen, Tim C <tim.c.chen@intel.com>; You,
> > Lizhen <lizhen.you@intel.com>; eric.dumazet@gmail.com;
> > netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] net: Keep sk->sk_forward_alloc as a proper
> > size
> >
> > +linux-mm & cgroup
> >
> > Thread: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230508020801.10702-1-
> > cathy.zhang@intel.com/
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 8:43 AM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > [...]
> > > Some mm experts should chime in, this is not a networking issue.
> >
> > Most of the MM folks are busy in LSFMM this week. I will take a look at this
> > soon.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-10 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230508020801.10702-1-cathy.zhang@intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20230508020801.10702-2-cathy.zhang@intel.com>
2023-05-09 17:19   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-09 18:04     ` Chen, Tim C
2023-05-09 18:17       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-10  7:03         ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-10  7:32           ` Zhang, Cathy
     [not found]   ` <3887b08ac0e55e27a24d2f66afcfff1961ed9b13.camel@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <CH3PR11MB73459006FCE3887E1EA3B82FFC769@CH3PR11MB7345.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]       ` <CH3PR11MB73456D792EC6E7614E2EF14DFC769@CH3PR11MB7345.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]         ` <CANn89iL6Ckuu9vOEvc7A9CBLGuh-EpbwFRxRAchV-6VFyhTUpg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <CH3PR11MB73458BB403D537CFA96FD8DDFC769@CH3PR11MB7345.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]             ` <CANn89iJvpgXTwGEiXAkFwY3j3RqVhNzJ_6_zmuRb4w7rUA_8Ug@mail.gmail.com>
2023-05-09 16:09               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-10  6:54                 ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-10 11:11                 ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-10 11:24                   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2023-05-10 13:52                     ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-10 15:07                       ` Eric Dumazet
2023-05-10 16:09                         ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-10 19:00                           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-11  0:53                             ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-11  6:59                               ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-11  7:50                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-05-11  9:26                                   ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-11 16:23                                     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-11 16:35                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2023-05-11 17:10                                         ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-11 21:18                                     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-12  2:38                                       ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-12  3:23                                         ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-12  5:06                                           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-12  5:51                                             ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-12 17:17                                               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-15  3:46                                                 ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-15  4:13                                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-15  6:27                                                     ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-15 19:50                                                       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-16  5:46                                                         ` Oliver Sang
2023-05-17 16:24                                                           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-17 16:33                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2023-05-17 17:04                                                               ` Shakeel Butt
2023-07-28  2:26                                                                 ` Zhang, Cathy
2023-05-19  2:53                                                             ` Oliver Sang
2023-05-31  8:46                                                             ` Oliver Sang
2023-05-09 17:58             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-05-10  7:21               ` Zhang, Cathy

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