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From: Mark Hemment <markhemm@googlemail.com>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Patrice CHOTARD <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	 Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	 Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regression in xfstests on tmpfs-backed NFS exports
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 15:38:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANe_+UjUGxZVzCC8yaqgqynpsMtM0d_iH0eL-ZB7k2=ZWe9rZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0017C60F-0BD8-4F5A-BD68-189EEDB2195C@oracle.com>

On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 00:45, Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 7, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2022, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> >>> On Apr 6, 2022, at 8:18 PM, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But I can sit here and try to guess.  I notice fs/nfsd checks
> >>> file->f_op->splice_read, and employs fallback if not available:
> >>> if you have time, please try rerunning those xfstests on an -rc1
> >>> kernel, but with mm/shmem.c's .splice_read line commented out.
> >>> My guess is that will then pass the tests, and we shall know more.
> >>
> >> This seemed like the most probative next step, so I commented
> >> out the .splice_read call-out in mm/shmem.c and ran the tests
> >> again. Yes, that change enables the fsx-related tests to pass
> >> as expected.
> >
> > Great, thank you for trying that.
> >
> >>
> >>> What could be going wrong there?  I've thought of two possibilities.
> >>> A minor, hopefully easily fixed, issue would be if fs/nfsd has
> >>> trouble with seeing the same page twice in a row: since tmpfs is
> >>> now using the ZERO_PAGE(0) for all pages of a hole, and I think I
> >>> caught sight of code which looks to see if the latest page is the
> >>> same as the one before.  It's easy to imagine that might go wrong.
> >>
> >> Are you referring to this function in fs/nfsd/vfs.c ?
> >
> > I think that was it, didn't pay much attention.
>
> This code seems to have been the issue. I added a little test
> to see if @page pointed to ZERO_PAGE(0) and now the tests
> pass as expected.
>
>
> >> 847 static int
> >> 848 nfsd_splice_actor(struct pipe_inode_info *pipe, struct pipe_buffer *buf,
> >> 849                   struct splice_desc *sd)
> >> 850 {
> >> 851         struct svc_rqst *rqstp = sd->u.data;
> >> 852         struct page **pp = rqstp->rq_next_page;
> >> 853         struct page *page = buf->page;
> >> 854
> >> 855         if (rqstp->rq_res.page_len == 0) {
> >> 856                 svc_rqst_replace_page(rqstp, page);
> >> 857                 rqstp->rq_res.page_base = buf->offset;
> >> 858         } else if (page != pp[-1]) {
> >> 859                 svc_rqst_replace_page(rqstp, page);
> >> 860         }
> >> 861         rqstp->rq_res.page_len += sd->len;
> >> 862
> >> 863         return sd->len;
> >> 864 }
> >>
> >> rq_next_page should point to the first unused element of
> >> rqstp->rq_pages, so IIUC that check is looking for the
> >> final page that is part of the READ payload.
> >>
> >> But that does suggest that if page -> ZERO_PAGE and so does
> >> pp[-1], then svc_rqst_replace_page() would not be invoked.
> >
> > I still haven't studied the logic there: Mark's input made it clear
> > that it's just too risky for tmpfs to pass back ZERO_PAGE repeatedly,
> > there could be expectations of uniqueness in other places too.
>
> I can't really attest to Mark's comment, but...
>
> After studying nfsd_splice_actor() I can't see any reason
> except cleverness and technical debt for this particular
> check. I have a patch that removes the check and simplifies
> this function that I'm testing now -- it seems to be a
> reasonable clean-up whether you keep 56a8c8eb1eaf or
> choose to revert it.

Agreed nfsd_splice_actor() is broken for the same-page case.
That function hasn't changed in logic since introduction.  So when
VxFS triggered this issue, back in 2007/2008, it must have had the
same problem with this actor (same with its predecessor; ->sendfile).
I don't remember.  But skb_can_coalesce() sticks in my mind for some
reason.  Would jumbo frames be a good stress for can_coalesce with
same-page?  Or, as Hugh is proposing to avoid sending ZERO_PAGE,
ignore this for now?


> >>> A more difficult issue would be, if fsx is racing writes and reads,
> >>> in a way that it can guarantee the correct result, but that correct
> >>> result is no longer delivered: because the writes go into freshly
> >>> allocated tmpfs cache pages, while reads are still delivering
> >>> stale ZERO_PAGEs from the pipe.  I'm hazy on the guarantees there.
> >>>
> >>> But unless someone has time to help out, we're heading for a revert.
> >
> > We might be able to avoid that revert, and go the whole way to using
> > iov_iter_zero() instead.  But the significant slowness of clear_user()
> > relative to copy to user, on x86 at least, does ask for a hybrid.
> >
> > Suggested patch below, on top of 5.18-rc1, passes my own testing:
> > but will it pass yours?  It seems to me safe, and as fast as before,
> > but we don't know yet if this iov_iter_zero() works right for you.
> > Chuck, please give it a go and let us know.
> >
> > (Don't forget to restore mm/shmem.c's .splice_read first!  And if
> > this works, I can revert mm/filemap.c's SetPageUptodate(ZERO_PAGE(0))
> > in the same patch, fixing the other regression, without recourse to
> > #ifdefs or arch mods.)
>
> Sure, I will try this out first thing tomorrow.
>
> One thing that occurs to me is that for NFS/RDMA, having a
> page full of zeroes that is already DMA-mapped would be a
> nice optimization on the sender side (on the client for an
> NFS WRITE and on the server for an NFS READ). The transport
> would have to set up a scatter-gather list containing a
> bunch of entries that reference the same page...
>
> </musing>
>
>
> > Thanks!
> > Hugh
> >
> > --- 5.18-rc1/mm/shmem.c
> > +++ linux/mm/shmem.c
> > @@ -2513,7 +2513,6 @@ static ssize_t shmem_file_read_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *to)
> >               pgoff_t end_index;
> >               unsigned long nr, ret;
> >               loff_t i_size = i_size_read(inode);
> > -             bool got_page;
> >
> >               end_index = i_size >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> >               if (index > end_index)
> > @@ -2570,24 +2569,34 @@ static ssize_t shmem_file_read_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *to)
> >                        */
> >                       if (!offset)
> >                               mark_page_accessed(page);
> > -                     got_page = true;
> > +                     /*
> > +                      * Ok, we have the page, and it's up-to-date, so
> > +                      * now we can copy it to user space...
> > +                      */
> > +                     ret = copy_page_to_iter(page, offset, nr, to);
> > +                     put_page(page);
> > +
> > +             } else if (iter_is_iovec(to)) {
> > +                     /*
> > +                      * Copy to user tends to be so well optimized, but
> > +                      * clear_user() not so much, that it is noticeably
> > +                      * faster to copy the zero page instead of clearing.
> > +                      */
> > +                     ret = copy_page_to_iter(ZERO_PAGE(0), offset, nr, to);
> >               } else {
> > -                     page = ZERO_PAGE(0);
> > -                     got_page = false;
> > +                     /*
> > +                      * But submitting the same page twice in a row to
> > +                      * splice() - or others? - can result in confusion:
> > +                      * so don't attempt that optimization on pipes etc.
> > +                      */
> > +                     ret = iov_iter_zero(nr, to);
> >               }
> >
> > -             /*
> > -              * Ok, we have the page, and it's up-to-date, so
> > -              * now we can copy it to user space...
> > -              */
> > -             ret = copy_page_to_iter(page, offset, nr, to);
> >               retval += ret;
> >               offset += ret;
> >               index += offset >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> >               offset &= ~PAGE_MASK;
> >
> > -             if (got_page)
> > -                     put_page(page);
> >               if (!iov_iter_count(to))
> >                       break;
> >               if (ret < nr) {
>
> --
> Chuck Lever

Cheers,
Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-08 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06 17:18 Chuck Lever III
2022-04-07  0:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2022-04-07  4:25   ` Mark Hemment
2022-04-07 22:04     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-04-07 19:24   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-07 22:26     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-04-07 23:45       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-08 14:38         ` Mark Hemment [this message]
2022-04-08 16:10       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-08 19:09         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-04-08 19:52           ` Chuck Lever III

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