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From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,  Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	criu@lists.linux.dev,  Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 10:26:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANaxB-zPuxtbpt7wcjDE1X5nv4yWp=JTq_MqWSfDce2gx-WKiA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c20ec44-0775-47e0-aabb-e1cf1f38ce94@lucifer.local>

On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 3:33 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 04:53:36PM -0800, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 9:59 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
> > <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently we set VM_SOFTDIRTY when a new mapping is set up (whether by
> > > establishing a new VMA, or via merge) as implemented in __mmap_complete()
> > > and do_brk_flags().
> > >
> > > However, when performing a merge of existing mappings such as when
> > > performing mprotect(), we may lose the VM_SOFTDIRTY flag.
> >
> > Losing VM_SOFTDIRTY is definitely a bug, thank you for fixing it.
> >
> > A separate concern is whether merging two VMAs should be permitted when
> > one has the VM_SOFTDIRTY flag set and another does not. I think the
> > merging operation should be disallowed.The  issue is that
>
>
> This patch doesn't change anything in terms of merging, it only _correctly_
> marks VMAs as soft-dirty where certain, very specific, circumstances might
> result in a merged VMA being incorrectly indicated to not be soft-dirty
> when it in fact contains pages which are.

As I mentioned in the previous message, this patch is correct, and I
appreciate your effort to solve this issue. My comment was about whether
we should allow merging VMAs if one has VM_SOFTDIRTY and the other does
not. You are right, this is a separate question unrelated to this patch.

I recall correctly that initially, merging vma-s with different
VM_SORTDIRTY bit values was not allowed. It was a bit surprising that
this behavior was changed by Cyrill in 34228d473efe.  Cyrill was an
active CRIU contributor at the time, so we can't even blame anyone for
breaking CRIU :).

Thanks,
Andrei


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-17 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 17:53 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: propagate VM_SOFTDIRTY on merge Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  4:39   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 15:47   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-17 15:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 16:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] testing/selftests/mm: add soft-dirty merge self-test Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:44   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 21:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag Andrew Morton
2025-11-17 11:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  0:53 ` Andrei Vagin
2025-11-17  4:37   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 18:26     ` Andrei Vagin [this message]
2025-11-17 19:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 13:09         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-19 17:21           ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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