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From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,  Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	criu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 16:53:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANaxB-yqsphFXvY0diEaHL+Bg4eJ+z_mqezxen9xVyoyL+4NMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1763142412.git.lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 9:59 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Currently we set VM_SOFTDIRTY when a new mapping is set up (whether by
> establishing a new VMA, or via merge) as implemented in __mmap_complete()
> and do_brk_flags().
>
> However, when performing a merge of existing mappings such as when
> performing mprotect(), we may lose the VM_SOFTDIRTY flag.

Losing VM_SOFTDIRTY is definitely a bug, thank you for fixing it.

A separate concern is whether merging two VMAs should be permitted when
one has the VM_SOFTDIRTY flag set and another does not. I think the
merging operation should be disallowed.The  issue is that
PAGE_IS_SOFT_DIRTY will be reported for every page in the resulting VMA.
Consider a scenario where a large VMA has only a small number of pages
marked SOFT_DIRTY. If we merge it with a smaller VMA that does have
VM_SOFTDIRTY, all pages in the originally large VMA will subsequently be
reported as SOFT_DIRTY. As a result, CRIU will needlessly dump all of
these pages again, even though the vast majority of them were unchanged
since the prior checkpoint iteration.

Thanks,
Andrei

>
>
> Lorenzo Stoakes (2):
>   mm: propagate VM_SOFTDIRTY on merge
>   testing/selftests/mm: add soft-dirty merge self-test
>
>  include/linux/mm.h                      | 23 ++++++-----
>  tools/testing/selftests/mm/soft-dirty.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  tools/testing/vma/vma_internal.h        | 23 ++++++-----
>  3 files changed, 72 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.51.0
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-17  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 17:53 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: propagate VM_SOFTDIRTY on merge Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  4:39   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 15:47   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-11-17 15:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 16:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-11-14 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] testing/selftests/mm: add soft-dirty merge self-test Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 14:44   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-17 15:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-14 21:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] make VM_SOFTDIRTY a sticky VMA flag Andrew Morton
2025-11-17 11:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17  0:53 ` Andrei Vagin [this message]
2025-11-17  4:37   ` Anshuman Khandual
2025-11-17 11:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-17 18:26     ` Andrei Vagin
2025-11-17 19:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 13:09         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2025-11-19 17:21           ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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