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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch 18/38] lib/tests: Replace get_cycles() with ktime_get()
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:24:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVerN6Pz07CQH+hcvT=-ZD-r9VNrSrGzTQZBEsuecK_ig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260410120318.794680738@kernel.org>

Hi Thomas,

On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 at 14:20, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org> wrote:
> get_cycles() is the historical access to a fine grained time source, but it
> is a suboptimal choice for two reasons:
>
>    - get_cycles() is not guaranteed to be supported and functional on all
>      systems/platforms. If not supported or not functional it returns 0,
>      which makes benchmarking moot.
>
>    - get_cycles() returns the raw counter value of whatever the
>      architecture platform provides. The original x86 Time Stamp Counter
>      (TSC) was despite its name tied to the actual CPU core frequency.
>      That's not longer the case. So the counter value is only meaningful
>      when the CPU operates at the same frequency as the TSC or the value is
>      adjusted to the actual CPU frequency. Other architectures and
>      platforms provide similar disjunct counters via get_cycles(), so the
>      result is operations per BOGO-cycles, which is not really meaningful.
>
> Use ktime_get() instead which provides nanosecond timestamps with the
> granularity of the underlying hardware counter, which is not different to
> the variety of get_cycles() implementations.
>
> This provides at least understandable metrics, i.e. operations/nanoseconds,
> and is available on all platforms. As with get_cycles() the result might
> have to be put into relation with the CPU operating frequency, but that's
> not any different.
>
> This is part of a larger effort to remove get_cycles() usage from
> non-architecture code.
>
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>

Thanks for your patch!

> --- a/lib/interval_tree_test.c
> +++ b/lib/interval_tree_test.c
> @@ -65,13 +65,13 @@ static void init(void)
>  static int basic_check(void)
>  {
>         int i, j;
> -       cycles_t time1, time2, time;
> +       ktime_t time1, time2, time;
>
>         printk(KERN_ALERT "interval tree insert/remove");
>
>         init();
>
> -       time1 = get_cycles();
> +       time1 = ktime_get();
>
>         for (i = 0; i < perf_loops; i++) {
>                 for (j = 0; j < nnodes; j++)
> @@ -80,11 +80,11 @@ static int basic_check(void)
>                         interval_tree_remove(nodes + j, &root);
>         }
>
> -       time2 = get_cycles();
> +       time2 = ktime_get();
>         time = time2 - time1;
>
>         time = div_u64(time, perf_loops);
> -       printk(" -> %llu cycles\n", (unsigned long long)time);
> +       printk(" -> %llu nsecs\n", (unsigned long long)time);

While cycles_t was unsigned long or long long, ktime_t is always s64,
so "%lld", and the cast can be dropped (everywhere).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

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                                -- Linus Torvalds


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-16 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-10 12:18 [patch 00/38] treewide: Cleanup LATCH, CLOCK_TICK_RATE and get_cycles() [ab]use Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 01/38] percpu: Sanitize __percpu_qual include hell Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 02/38] x86: Cleanup include recursion hell Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 20:55   ` [patch V1.1 " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 03/38] x86/apm: Remove last LATCH usage Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 04/38] x86: Use PIT_TICK_RATE instead of CLOCK_TICK_RATE Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 05/38] treewide: Remove CLOCK_TICK_RATE Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-15  6:40   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-04-16 11:22   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-04-10 12:18 ` [patch 06/38] calibrate: Rework delay timer calibration Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 07/38] treewide: Consolidate cycles_t Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13  9:15   ` Ojaswin Mujoo
2026-04-15  6:43   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-04-16 19:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-16 11:22   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 08/38] x86/tsc: Use rdtsc() instead of get_cycles() Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 09/38] iommu/vt-d: Use sched_clock() " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 13:45   ` Baolu Lu
2026-04-10 15:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 10/38] arcnet: Remove function timing code Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13 15:29   ` David Woodhouse
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 11/38] misc: sgi-gru: Remove get_cycles() [ab]use Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 20:56   ` [patch V1.1 " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 12/38] wifi: wil6210: Replace get_cyles() usage Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 13/38] crypto: tcrypt: Replace get_cycles() with ktime_get() Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 14/38] slub: Use prandom instead of get_cycles() Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13  9:00   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-13  9:07   ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-04-13 13:02     ` hu.shengming
2026-04-13 13:45       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 15/38] ptp: ptp_vmclock: Replace get_cycles() usage Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13 15:33   ` David Woodhouse
2026-04-13 19:30     ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 16/38] fbdev: udlfb: Replace get_cycles() with ktime_get() Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 17/38] ext4: Replace get_cycles() usage " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13 14:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-10 12:19 ` [patch 18/38] lib/tests: Replace get_cycles() " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-16 10:24   ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 19/38] kcsan: Replace get_cycles() usage Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 13:39   ` Marco Elver
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 20/38] kasan: sw_tags: Replace get_cycles() by random_get_entropy() Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 21/38] hamradio: baycom_epp: Remove BAYCOM_DEBUG Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 22/38] random: Provide CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_RANDOM_ENTROPY Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 23/38] alpha: Select ARCH_HAS_RANDOM_ENTROPY Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-12 13:22   ` Magnus Lindholm
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 24/38] ARM: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 25/38] arm64: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 26/38] loongarch: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 27/38] m68k: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 15:31   ` Daniel Palmer
2026-04-16 11:22   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 28/38] mips: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13  5:47   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 29/38] nios2: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:20 ` [patch 30/38] openrisc: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-12  8:56   ` Stafford Horne
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 31/38] parisc: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-14 12:41   ` Helge Deller
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 32/38] powerpc/spufs: Use mftb() directly Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13 14:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-15  6:38   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 33/38] powerpc: Select ARCH_HAS_RANDOM_ENTROPY Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-15  6:47   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 34/38] riscv: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 35/38] s390: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-16 13:42   ` Heiko Carstens
2026-04-16 19:29     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 36/38] sparc: Select ARCH_HAS_RANDOM_ENTROPY for SPARC64 Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 37/38] x86: Select ARCH_HAS_RANDOM_ENTROPY Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-10 12:21 ` [patch 38/38] treewide: Remove asm/timex.h includes from generic code Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-13 14:45   ` Arnd Bergmann

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