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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,  Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	 Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/19] mm, swap: sanitize swap entry management workflow
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2025 16:59:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMgjq7DtP4j4kQp-bM+jrVSkCh26+8U-TkENxUmPkmEJyZg9YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQWR3fK/GtTkx0kX@yjaykim-PowerEdge-T330>

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025 at 12:51 PM YoungJun Park <youngjun.park@lge.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:58:40PM +0800, Kairui Song wrote:
> > From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> Hello Kairui!
>
> > The current swap entry allocation/freeing workflow has never had a clear
> > definition. This makes it hard to debug or add new optimizations.
> >
> > This commit introduces a proper definition of how swap entries would be
> > allocated and freed. Now, most operations are folio based, so they will
> > never exceed one swap cluster, and we now have a cleaner border between
> > swap and the rest of mm, making it much easier to follow and debug,
> > especially with new added sanity checks. Also making more optimization
> > possible.
> >
> > Swap entry will be mostly allocated and free with a folio bound.
> > The folio lock will be useful for resolving many swap ralated races.
> >
> > Now swap allocation (except hibernation) always starts with a folio in
> > the swap cache, and gets duped/freed protected by the folio lock:
> >
> > - folio_alloc_swap() - The only allocation entry point now.
> >   Context: The folio must be locked.
> >   This allocates one or a set of continuous swap slots for a folio and
> >   binds them to the folio by adding the folio to the swap cache. The
> >   swap slots' swap count start with zero value.
> >
> > - folio_dup_swap() - Increase the swap count of one or more entries.
> >   Context: The folio must be locked and in the swap cache. For now, the
> >   caller still has to lock the new swap entry owner (e.g., PTL).
> >   This increases the ref count of swap entries allocated to a folio.
> >   Newly allocated swap slots' count has to be increased by this helper
> >   as the folio got unmapped (and swap entries got installed).
> >
> > - folio_put_swap() - Decrease the swap count of one or more entries.
> >   Context: The folio must be locked and in the swap cache. For now, the
> >   caller still has to lock the new swap entry owner (e.g., PTL).
> >   This decreases the ref count of swap entries allocated to a folio.
> >   Typically, swapin will decrease the swap count as the folio got
> >   installed back and the swap entry got uninstalled
> >
> >   This won't remove the folio from the swap cache and free the
> >   slot. Lazy freeing of swap cache is helpful for reducing IO.
> >   There is already a folio_free_swap() for immediate cache reclaim.
> >   This part could be further optimized later.
> >
> > The above locking constraints could be further relaxed when the swap
> > table if fully implemented. Currently dup still needs the caller
> > to lock the swap entry container (e.g. PTL), or a concurrent zap
> > may underflow the swap count.
> >
> > Some swap users need to interact with swap count without involving folio
> > (e.g. forking/zapping the page table or mapping truncate without swapin).
> > In such cases, the caller has to ensure there is no race condition on
> > whatever owns the swap count and use the below helpers:
> >
> > - swap_put_entries_direct() - Decrease the swap count directly.
> >   Context: The caller must lock whatever is referencing the slots to
> >   avoid a race.
> >
> >   Typically the page table zapping or shmem mapping truncate will need
> >   to free swap slots directly. If a slot is cached (has a folio bound),
> >   this will also try to release the swap cache.
> >
> > - swap_dup_entry_direct() - Increase the swap count directly.
> >   Context: The caller must lock whatever is referencing the entries to
> >   avoid race, and the entries must already have a swap count > 1.
> >
> >   Typically, forking will need to copy the page table and hence needs to
> >   increase the swap count of the entries in the table. The page table is
> >   locked while referencing the swap entries, so the entries all have a
> >   swap count > 1 and can't be freed.
> >
> > Hibernation subsystem is a bit different, so two special wrappers are here:
> >
> > - swap_alloc_hibernation_slot() - Allocate one entry from one device.
> > - swap_free_hibernation_slot() - Free one entry allocated by the above
> > helper.
>
> During the code review, I found something to be verified.
> It is not directly releavant your patch,
> I send the email for checking it right and possible fix on this patch.
>
> on the swap_alloc_hibernation_slot function
> nr_swap_pages is decreased. but as I think it is decreased on swap_range_alloc.
>
> The nr_swap_pages are decremented as the callflow as like the below.
>
> cluster_alloc_swap_entry -> alloc_swap_scan_cluster
> -> closter_alloc_range -> swap_range_alloc
>
> Introduced on
> 4f78252da887ee7e9d1875dd6e07d9baa936c04f
> mm: swap: move nr_swap_pages counter decrement  from folio_alloc_swap() to swap_range_alloc()
>

Yeah, you are right, that's a bug introduced by 4f78252da887, will you
send a patch to fix that ? Or I can send one, just remove the
atomic_long_dec(&nr_swap_pages) in get_swap_page_of_type then we are
fine.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-01  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29 15:58 [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm/swap: rename __read_swap_cache_async to swap_cache_alloc_folio Kairui Song
2025-10-30 22:53   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-11-03  8:28     ` Barry Song
2025-11-03  9:02       ` Kairui Song
2025-11-03  9:10         ` Barry Song
2025-11-03 16:50         ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm, swap: split swap cache preparation loop into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 03/19] mm, swap: never bypass the swap cache even for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-11-04  3:47   ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:44     ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm, swap: always try to free swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO devices Kairui Song
2025-11-04  4:19   ` Barry Song
2025-11-04  8:26     ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:55       ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm, swap: simplify the code and reduce indention Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm, swap: free the swap cache after folio is mapped Kairui Song
2025-11-04  9:14   ` Barry Song
2025-11-04 10:50     ` Kairui Song
2025-11-04 19:52       ` Barry Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm/shmem: never bypass the swap cache for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm/shmem, swap: remove SWAP_MAP_SHMEM Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm, swap: swap entry of a bad slot should not be considered as swapped out Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 10/19] mm, swap: consolidate cluster reclaim and check logic Kairui Song
2025-10-31  5:25   ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31  7:11     ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 11/19] mm, swap: split locked entry duplicating into a standalone helper Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm, swap: use swap cache as the swap in synchronize layer Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm, swap: remove workaround for unsynchronized swap map cache state Kairui Song
2025-11-07  3:07   ` Barry Song
2025-11-09 14:18     ` Kairui Song
2025-11-10  7:21       ` Barry Song
2025-11-16 16:01         ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm, swap: sanitize swap entry management workflow Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-10-30  5:25     ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 19:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-01  4:51   ` YoungJun Park
2025-11-01  8:59     ` Kairui Song [this message]
2025-11-01  9:08       ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm, swap: add folio to swap cache directly on allocation Kairui Song
2025-10-29 16:52   ` Kairui Song
2025-10-31  5:56   ` YoungJun Park
2025-10-31  7:02     ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm, swap: check swap table directly for checking cache Kairui Song
2025-11-06 21:02   ` Barry Song
2025-11-07  3:13     ` Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm, swap: clean up and improve swap entries freeing Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm, swap: drop the SWAP_HAS_CACHE flag Kairui Song
2025-10-29 15:58 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm, swap: remove no longer needed _swap_info_get Kairui Song
2025-10-30 23:04 ` [PATCH 00/19] mm, swap: never bypass swap cache and cleanup flags (swap table phase II) Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-31  6:58   ` Kairui Song
2025-11-05  7:39 ` Chris Li

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