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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	 Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] mm: remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap entries, introduce leaf entries
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:16:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMgjq7BT8+Vs+7=G5PUS5wsxAhWVzDTGLX5g3mXMpTJ8PFSbxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9e3ad0e-02ef-077c-c12c-f72057eb7817@google.com>

On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 8:09 AM Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 03:04:48AM -0800, Chris Li wrote:
> > >
> > > That is actually the reason to give the swap table change more
> > > priority. Just saying.
> >
> > I'm sorry but this is not a reasonable request. I am being as empathetic and
> > kind as I can be here, but this series is proceeding without arbitrary delay.
> >
> > I will do everything I can to accommodate any concerns or issues you may have
> > here _within reason_ :)
>
> But Lorenzo, have you even tested your series properly yet, with
> swapping and folio migration and huge pages and tmpfs under load?
> Please do.
>
> I haven't had time to bisect yet, maybe there's nothing more needed
> than a one-liner fix somewhere; but from my experience it is not yet
> ready for inclusion in mm and next - it stops testing other folks' work.
>
> I haven't tried today's v3, but from the cover letter of differences,
> it didn't look like much of importance is fixed since v2: which
> (after a profusion of "Bad swap offet entry 3ffffffffffff" messages,

I also noticed the 0x3fff... issue in V2:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAMgjq7AP383YfU3L5ZxJ9U3x-vRPnEkEUtmnPdXD29HiNC8OrA@mail.gmail.com/

The issue is caused by removing the pte_none check, that could result
in issues like this, so that check has to stay I think, at least for
the swap part.

It seems V3 has fixed it, I can have a try later.

I also hope we can keep the swap entry part untouched, Overloading
swap entry for things like migration looks odd indeed, but setting and
getting a PTE as swap entry seems clean and easy to understand.
Existing usage of swap entries is quite logically consistent and
stable, we might need to do some cleanup for swap but having a
standalone type and define is very helpful.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-11  4:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-08 17:08 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] mm: correctly handle UFFD PTE markers Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-09 16:26   ` Lance Yang
2025-11-10  6:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 11:17   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 13:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 13:44       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 18:05         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] mm: introduce leaf entry type and use to simplify leaf entry logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-09 12:34   ` Lance Yang
2025-11-10 18:48     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-09 13:10   ` Kairui Song
2025-11-10 18:34     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] mm: avoid unnecessary uses of is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] mm: eliminate is_swap_pte() when softleaf_from_pte() suffices Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-09 12:49   ` Kairui Song
2025-11-10 19:38     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] mm: use leaf entries in debug pgtable + remove is_swap_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] fs/proc/task_mmu: refactor pagemap_pmd_range() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] mm: avoid unnecessary use of is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] mm/huge_memory: refactor copy_huge_pmd() non-present logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] mm/huge_memory: refactor change_huge_pmd() " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] mm: replace pmd_to_swp_entry() with softleaf_from_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:18   ` SeongJae Park
2025-11-10 22:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] mm: introduce pmd_is_huge() and use where appropriate Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] mm: remove remaining is_swap_pmd() users and is_swap_pmd() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] mm: remove non_swap_entry() and use softleaf helpers instead Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] mm: remove is_hugetlb_entry_[migration, hwpoisoned]() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] mm: eliminate further swapops predicates Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 17:08 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] mm: replace remaining pte_to_swp_entry() with softleaf_from_pte() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08 18:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] mm: remove is_swap_[pte, pmd]() + non-swap entries, introduce leaf entries Andrew Morton
2025-11-10  7:32 ` Chris Li
2025-11-10 10:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 11:04     ` Chris Li
2025-11-10 11:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 23:38         ` Hugh Dickins
2025-11-11  0:23           ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-11  4:07             ` Hugh Dickins
2025-11-11  6:51               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-11  4:16           ` Kairui Song [this message]
2025-11-11  6:55             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-11  9:19         ` Chris Li
2025-11-11 10:03           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 22:21 Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 22:24 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-11  0:17 ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-21 23:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-24 10:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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