linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: memcontrol: remove mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 15:06:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMgjq7A+Ju247rC7+fo9jcZpK8rkd0Ou6e=7qzgL4rV3JWBX5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yw2x6T3xchjpzX7j@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> 于2022年8月30日周二 14:45写道:
>
> On Tue 30-08-22 13:59:48, Kairui Song wrote:
> > From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> >
> > There are currently two helpers for checking if cgroup kmem
> > accounting is enabled:
> >
> > - mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled
> > - memcg_kmem_enabled
>
> Yes, this is a bit confusing indeed!
>
> > mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled is a simple helper that returns true if
> > cgroup.memory=nokmem is specified, otherwise returns false.
> >
> > memcg_kmem_enabled is a bit different, it returns true if
> > cgroup.memory=nokmem is not specified and there is at least one
> > non-root cgroup ever created. And once there is any non-root memcg
> > created, it won't go back to return false again.
> >
> > This may help improve performance for some corner use cases where
> > the user enables memory cgroup and kmem accounting globally but never
> > create any cgroup.
> >
> > Considering that corner case is rare, especially nowadays cgroup is
> > widely used as a standard way to organize services.
>
> Is it really that rare? Most configurations would use a default setup, so
> both MEMCG enabled and without nokmem on cmd line yet the memory
> controller is not enabled in their setups.

Actually I don't have too much confidence saying that as well... but
AFAIK, almost all distros will create a few sub cgroup on boot by the
init (eg. openrc, finit, systemd).
Maybe it's not that rare indeed.

>
> > And the "once
> > enabled never disable" behavior is kind of strange. This commit simplifies
> > the behavior of memcg_kmem_enabled, making it simply the opposite of
> > mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled, always true if cgroup.memory=nokmem is
> > not specified. So mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled can be dropped.
> >
> > This simplifies the code, and besides, memcg_kmem_enabled makes use
> > of static key so it has a lower overhead.
>
> I agree that this is slightly confusing and undocumented. The first step
> would be finding out why we need both outside of the memcg proper.
>
> E.g. it doesn't make much sense to me that count_objcg_event uses the
> command line variant when it should be using the dynamic (and more
> optimized no branch) variant.
>
> On the other hand pcpu_alloc_chunk seems to be different because it can
> be called before the controller is enabled but maybe we do not need to
> waste memory before that? Similarly new_kmalloc_cache. I suspect these
> are mostly to simplify the code and reduce special casing.

Yes, that's very insightful, let me tidy up the code and logic behind
and send a V2 later.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-30  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  5:59 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memcontrol: cleanup and optimize for accounting params Kairui Song
2022-08-30  5:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memcontrol: remove mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled Kairui Song
2022-08-30  6:44   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-30  7:06     ` Kairui Song [this message]
2022-08-30  7:12       ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-30  7:45         ` Kairui Song
2022-08-30 18:03   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-30  5:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: memcontrol: make cgroup_memory_noswap a static key Kairui Song
2022-08-30  7:01   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-30  8:50     ` Kairui Song
2022-08-30 10:12       ` Michal Hocko

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAMgjq7A+Ju247rC7+fo9jcZpK8rkd0Ou6e=7qzgL4rV3JWBX5w@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=ryncsn@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@suse.com \
    --cc=roman.gushchin@linux.dev \
    --cc=shakeelb@google.com \
    --cc=songmuchun@bytedance.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox