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From: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Xiongchun duan <duanxiongchun@bytedance.com>,
	 fam.zheng@bytedance.com, "Singh, Balbir" <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	 Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [RFC PATCH v3 01/12] mm: memcontrol: move the objcg infrastructure out of CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 10:46:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMZfGtWWHHVL1hten=tGBcYUye19i+PK0_3o8=p0uYJ_w=o1cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YK0lckLSLxhZMk3S@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 12:27 AM Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 03:00:48PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> > Because memory allocations pinning memcgs for a long time - it exists
> > at a larger scale and is causing recurring problems in the real world:
> > page cache doesn't get reclaimed for a long time, or is used by the
> > second, third, fourth, ... instance of the same job that was restarted
> > into a new cgroup every time. Unreclaimable dying cgroups pile up,
> > waste memory, and make page reclaim very inefficient.
> >
> > We can convert LRU pages and most other raw memcg pins to the objcg
> > direction to fix this problem, and then the page->memcg will always
> > point to an object cgroup pointer.
> >
> > Therefore, the infrastructure of objcg no longer only serves
> > CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM. In this patch, we move the infrastructure of the
> > objcg out of the scope of the CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM so that the LRU pages
> > can reuse it to charge pages.
> >
> > We know that the LRU pages are not accounted at the root level. But
> > the page->memcg_data points to the root_mem_cgroup. So the
> > page->memcg_data of the LRU pages always points to a valid pointer.
> > But the root_mem_cgroup dose not have an object cgroup. If we use
> > obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages, we should set the
> > page->memcg_data to a root object cgroup. So we also allocate an
> > object cgroup for the root_mem_cgroup.
>
> Overall the patch looks very good to me. There are few small things to enhance:
>
> 1) I'd rename it. Looking at the title I expect a trivial code move,
>    however the patch is doing more than this: e.g. allocating an objcg
>    for the root memcg. Something like "prepare objcg API for non-kmem usage".

OK. I will rename it.

> 2) How about obj_cgroup_release_kmem() instead of obj_cgroup_release_uncharge()?

LGTM. Will use this name.

> 3) The first paragraph of the commit log looks a bit vague: which allocations
>    pinning memcgs? How about something like this?
>
> Pagecache pages are charged at the allocation time and holding a reference
> to the original memory cgroup until being reclaimed. Depending on the memory
> pressure, specific patterns of the page sharing between different cgroups and
> the cgroup creation and destruction rates, a large number of dying memory
> cgroups can be pinned by pagecache pages. It makes the page reclaim less
> efficient and wastes memory.

More clear. I would love to use this.

Thanks Roman.

>
>
> Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-21  7:00 [RFC PATCH v3 00/12] Use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/12] mm: memcontrol: move the objcg infrastructure out of CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM Muchun Song
2021-05-25 16:27   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-05-26  2:46     ` Muchun Song [this message]
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/12] mm: memcontrol: introduce compact_lock_page_lruvec_irqsave Muchun Song
2021-05-25 17:21   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-05-26  2:49     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/12] mm: memcontrol: make lruvec lock safe when the LRU pages reparented Muchun Song
2021-05-25 17:21   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/12] mm: vmscan: rework move_pages_to_lru() Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/12] mm: thp: introduce lock/unlock_split_queue{_irqsave}() Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/12] mm: thp: make deferred split queue lock safe when the LRU pages reparented Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/12] mm: memcontrol: make all the callers of page_memcg() safe Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/12] mm: memcontrol: introduce memcg_reparent_ops Muchun Song
2021-05-25 17:46   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-05-26  3:01     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/12] mm: memcontrol: use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/12] mm: memcontrol: rename {un}lock_page_memcg() to {un}lock_page_objcg() Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/12] mm: lru: add VM_BUG_ON_PAGE to lru maintenance function Muchun Song
2021-04-21  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/12] mm: lru: use lruvec lock to serialize memcg changes Muchun Song
2021-05-18 13:49 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/12] Use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2021-05-18 14:17   ` Roman Gushchin
2021-05-20  3:20     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-05-25 17:35       ` Roman Gushchin
2021-05-26  2:41         ` Muchun Song

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