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From: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/22] PCI: Add API to track PCI devices preserved across Live Update
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 09:33:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALzav=fSpd6H5pQNtJoFHdNtWVO11vffhWQFsMFkM+osGuE0wQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZ1svGur9IxQ7Td2@google.com>

On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 1:18 AM Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 09:24:49PM +0000, David Matlack wrote:
> > + * Copyright (c) 2025, Google LLC.
>
> Nit: Should these be 2026 now?

Yes! Thanks for catching that.

> > +int pci_liveupdate_outgoing_preserve(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > +{
> > +     struct pci_dev_ser new = INIT_PCI_DEV_SER(dev);
> > +     struct pci_ser *ser;
> > +     int i, ret;
> > +
> > +     /* Preserving VFs is not supported yet. */
> > +     if (dev->is_virtfn)
> > +             return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > +     guard(mutex)(&pci_flb_outgoing_lock);
> > +
> > +     if (dev->liveupdate_outgoing)
> > +             return -EBUSY;
> > +
> > +     ret = liveupdate_flb_get_outgoing(&pci_liveupdate_flb, (void **)&ser);
> > +     if (ret)
> > +             return ret;
> > +
> > +     if (ser->nr_devices == ser->max_nr_devices)
> > +             return -E2BIG;
>
> I'm wondering how (or if) this handles hot-plugged devices?
> max_nr_devices is calculated based on for_each_pci_dev at the time of
> the first preservation.. what happens if a device is hotplugged after
> the first device is preserved but before the second one is, does
> max_nr_devices become stale? Since ser->max_nr_devices will not reflect
> the actual possible device count, potentially leading to an unnecessary
> -E2BIG failure?

Yes, it's possible to run out space to preserve devices if devices are
hot-plugged and then preserved. But I think it's better to defer
handling such a use-case exists (unless you see an obvious simple
solution). So far I am not seeing preserving hot-plugged devices
across Live Update as a high priority use-case to support.

> > +u32 pci_liveupdate_incoming_nr_devices(void)
> > +{
> > +     struct pci_ser *ser;
> > +     int ret;
> > +
> > +     ret = liveupdate_flb_get_incoming(&pci_liveupdate_flb, (void **)&ser);
> > +     if (ret)
> > +             return 0;
>
> Masking this error looks troubled, in the following patch, I see that
> the retval 0 is treated as a fresh boot, but the IOMMU mappings for that
> BDF might still be preserved? Which could lead to DMA aliasing issues,
> without a hint of what happened since we don't even log anything.

All fo the non-0 errors indicate there are 0 incoming devices at the
time of the call, so I think returning 0 is appropriate.

 - EOPNOTSUPP: Live Update is not enabled.
 - ENODATA: Live Update is finished (all incoming devices have been restored).
 - ENOTENT: No PCI data was preserved across the Live Update.

None of these cover the case where an IOMMU mapping for BDF X is
preserved, but device X is not preserved. This is a case we should
handle in some way... but here is not that place.

>
> Maybe we could have something like the following:
>
> int pci_liveupdate_incoming_nr_devices(void)
> {
>         struct pci_ser *ser;
>         int ret;
>
>         ret = liveupdate_flb_get_incoming(&pci_liveupdate_flb, (void **)&ser);
>         if (ret) {
>                 if (ret != -ENOENT)
>                         pr_warn("PCI: Failed to retrieve preservation list: %d\n", ret);

This would cause this warning to get printed if Live Update was
disabled, or if no PCI devices were preserved. But both of those are
not error scenarios.

> > +void pci_liveupdate_setup_device(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > +{
> > +     struct pci_ser *ser;
> > +     int ret;
> > +
> > +     ret = liveupdate_flb_get_incoming(&pci_liveupdate_flb, (void **)&ser);
> > +     if (ret)
> > +             return;
>
> We should log something here either at info / debug level since the
> error isn't bubbled up and the luo_core doesn't scream about it either.

Any error from liveupdate_flb_get_incoming() simply means there are no
incoming devices. So I don't think there's any error to report in
dmesg.

> > +     dev->liveupdate_incoming = !!pci_ser_find(ser, dev);
>
> This feels a little hacky, shall we go for something like:
>
> dev->liveupdate_incoming = (pci_ser_find(ser, dev) != NULL); ?

In my experience in the kernel (mostly from KVM), explicity comparison
to NULL is less preferred to treating a pointer as a boolean. But I'm
ok with following whatever is the locally preferred style for this
kind of check.

> > @@ -582,6 +583,10 @@ struct pci_dev {
> >       u8              tph_mode;       /* TPH mode */
> >       u8              tph_req_type;   /* TPH requester type */
> >  #endif
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE
> > +     unsigned int    liveupdate_incoming:1;  /* Preserved by previous kernel */
> > +     unsigned int    liveupdate_outgoing:1;  /* Preserved for next kernel */
> > +#endif
> >  };
>
> This would start another anon bitfield container, should we move this
> above within the existing bitfield? If we've run pahole and found this
> to be better, then this should be fine.

Yeah I simply appended these new fields to the very end of the struct.
If we care about optimizing the packing of struct pci_dev I can find a
better place to put it.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29 21:24 [PATCH v2 00/22] vfio/pci: Base Live Update support for VFIO device files David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 01/22] liveupdate: Export symbols needed by modules David Matlack
2026-02-24  8:26   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:08   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 02/22] PCI: Add API to track PCI devices preserved across Live Update David Matlack
2026-02-01  6:38   ` Zhu Yanjun
2026-02-02 18:14     ` David Matlack
2026-02-04  0:10       ` Yanjun.Zhu
2026-02-20 19:03         ` David Matlack
2026-02-23 22:04   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-23 23:08     ` David Matlack
2026-02-23 23:43       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24  0:00         ` David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:17   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:33     ` David Matlack [this message]
2026-02-24 19:02       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 19:05         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 03/22] PCI: Inherit bus numbers from previous kernel during " David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:36   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 17:36     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 04/22] vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator David Matlack
2026-02-06 22:37   ` Yanjun.Zhu
2026-02-06 23:14     ` David Matlack
2026-02-24  9:58       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 05/22] vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update David Matlack
2026-02-23 22:29   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24 18:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-02-24 19:16     ` David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 06/22] vfio/pci: Retrieve preserved device files after " David Matlack
2026-02-23 23:27   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-02-24 19:19   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 07/22] vfio/pci: Notify PCI subsystem about devices preserved across " David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 08/22] vfio: Enforce preserved devices are retrieved via LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/22] vfio/pci: Store incoming Live Update state in struct vfio_pci_core_device David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] vfio/pci: Skip reset of preserved device after Live Update David Matlack
2026-01-29 22:21   ` Jacob Pan
2026-01-29 22:33     ` David Matlack
2026-01-30  0:31       ` Jacob Pan
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] docs: liveupdate: Document VFIO device file preservation David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] selftests/liveupdate: Move luo_test_utils.* into a reusable library David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add helpers to preserve/retrieve FDs David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] vfio: selftests: Build liveupdate library in VFIO selftests David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] vfio: selftests: Add Makefile support for TEST_GEN_PROGS_EXTENDED David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] vfio: selftests: Initialize vfio_pci_device using a VFIO cdev FD David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] vfio: selftests: Expose iommu_modes to tests David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] vfio: selftests: Expose low-level helper routines for setting up struct vfio_pci_device David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] vfio: selftests: Verify that opening VFIO device fails during Live Update David Matlack
2026-01-29 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] vfio: selftests: Add continuous DMA to vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack

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