From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator.
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 08:25:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod460hip0mQouEVtfcOZ0M21Xmzaa-atxxrUnR3ZisDCNw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ys1ES+CygtnUvArz@dhcp22.suse.cz>
CCing Yosry, Muchun & Johannes
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 2:52 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue 12-07-22 16:39:48, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > > Roman already sent reparenting fix:
> > > > https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20220711162827.184743-1-roman.gushchin@linux.dev/
> > >
> > > Reparenting is nice but not a silver bullet. Consider a shallow
> > > hierarchy where the charging happens in the first level under the root
> > > memcg. Reparenting to the root is just pushing everything under the
> > > system resources category.
> > >
> >
> > Agreed. That's why I don't like reparenting.
> > Reparenting just reparent the charged pages and then redirect the new
> > charge, but can't reparents the 'limit' of the original memcg.
> > So it is a risk if the original memcg is still being charged. We have
> > to forbid the destruction of the original memcg.
>
> yes, I was toying with an idea like that. I guess we really want a
> measure to keep cgroups around if they are bound to a resource which is
> sticky itself. I am not sure how many other resources like BPF (aka
> module like) we already do charge for memcg but considering the
> potential memory consumption just reparenting will not help in general
> case I am afraid.
Another very obvious example is the filesystem shared between multiple
jobs. We had a similar discussion [1] on LRU reparenting patch series.
For this use-case internally we have a memcg= mount option where the
given memcg is the common ancestor (think of pod in k8s environment)
of the jobs who are sharing the filesystem.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210330101531.82752-1-songmuchun@bytedance.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-12 15:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20220623003230.37497-1-alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
2022-06-27 7:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-28 0:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-28 5:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-28 13:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-28 17:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-06-29 2:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-06-29 2:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-04 16:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-07-06 17:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-19 11:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-07-04 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 17:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 17:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-06 18:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-06 18:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-08 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-08 17:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-08 20:13 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-08 21:55 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-10 5:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-10 7:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-11 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 4:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-12 7:40 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 8:39 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-12 9:52 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 15:25 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2022-07-12 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-12 17:26 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-12 17:36 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-12 18:11 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-07-12 18:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-13 13:56 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-12 19:11 ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-12 16:24 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-18 14:13 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-13 2:39 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-13 14:24 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-13 16:24 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-14 6:15 ` Yafang Shao
2022-07-18 17:55 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 11:30 ` cgroup specific sticky resources (was: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator.) Michal Hocko
2022-07-19 18:00 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 18:01 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 18:46 ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 19:16 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 19:30 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 19:38 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 19:40 ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-07-19 19:47 ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 19:54 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-19 20:16 ` Mina Almasry
2022-07-19 20:29 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-20 12:26 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-12 18:40 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/5] bpf: BPF specific memory allocator Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-18 12:27 ` Michal Hocko
2022-07-13 2:27 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-07-11 12:22 ` Michal Hocko
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