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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: protect suid binaries against rowhammer with copy-on-read mappings
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:08:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALYGNiPPgaKb6_Pyo1SZ8sjgSbgC0yXFfZ2OwUN5=mSdTypcAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550987AD.8020409@intel.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
> On 03/18/2015 01:30 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> +             /*
>> +              * Read-only SUID/SGID binares are mapped as copy-on-read
>> +              * this protects them against exploiting with Rowhammer.
>> +              */
>> +             if (!(file->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE) &&
>> +                 ((inode->i_mode & S_ISUID) || ((inode->i_mode & S_ISGID) &&
>> +                         (inode->i_mode & S_IXGRP)))) {
>> +                     vm_flags &= ~(VM_SHARED | VM_MAYSHARE);
>> +                     vm_flags |= VM_COR;
>> +             }
>
> I think we probably need to come to _some_ sort of understanding in the
> kernel of how much we are willing to do to thwart these kinds of
> attacks.  I suspect it's a very deep rabbit hole.
>
> For this particular case, I don't see how this would be effective.  The
> existing exploit which you reference attacks PTE pages which are
> unmapped in to the user address space.  I'm confused how avoiding
> mapping a page in to an attacker's process can keep it from being exploited.
>
> Right now, there's a relatively small number of pages that will get
> COW'd for a SUID binary.  This greatly increases the number which could
> allow spraying of these (valuable) copy-on-read pages.

Yeah, on second thought that copy-on-read gives the same security
level as hiding pfns from userspace. Sorry for the noise.

It seems the only option is memory zoning: kernel should allocate all
normal memory for userspace from isolated area which is kept far far
away from important data.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18  8:30 Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-18  9:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-03-18 11:41   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-19 13:04     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-19 13:24       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-03-18 14:11 ` Dave Hansen
2015-03-18 15:08   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2015-03-18 15:45     ` Dave Hansen

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