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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:01:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALWz4iz=dE9BGme7+-Fwdz2-gt2GfymzYcXrg0ZcSD7PAbARfg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110812191718.GE29086@cmpxchg.org>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:08:18AM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>> > And in reality, we only care about properly memcg-unaccounting the
>> > old lru state before we change pc->mem_cgroup, so this becomes
>> >
>> >        if (!PageLRU(page))
>> >                 return;
>> >        spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lru_lock, flags);
>> >         if (!PageCgroupUsed(pc))
>> >                mem_cgroup_lru_del(page);
>> >         spin_unlock_irqrestore(&zone->lru_lock, flags);
>> >
>> > I don't see why we should care if the page stays physically linked
>> > to the list.
>>
>> Can you clarify that?
>
> Well, I don't see anything wrong with leaving it on the LRU.  We just
> need to unaccount the page from pc->mem_cgroup's lru stats before the
> page is charged, pc->mem_cgroup overwritten, and the account lost.
>
>> > The handling after committing the charge becomes this:
>> >
>> > -       if (likely(!PageLRU(page)))
>> > -               return;
>> >        spin_lock_irqsave(&zone->lru_lock, flags);
>> >         lru = page_lru(page);
>> >        if (PageLRU(page) && !PageCgroupAcctLRU(pc)) {
>> >                del_page_from_lru_list(zone, page, lru);
>> >                add_page_to_lru_list(zone, page, lru);
>> >        }
>> >
>> > If the page is not on the LRU, someone else will put it there and link
>> > it up properly.  If it is on the LRU and already memcg-accounted then
>> > it must be on the right lruvec as setting pc->mem_cgroup and PCG_USED
>> > is properly ordered.  Otherwise, it has to be physically moved to the
>> > correct lruvec and memcg-accounted for.
>>
>> While working on the zone->lru_lock patch, i have been questioning myself on
>> the PageLRU and PageCgroupAcctLRU bit. Here is my question:
>>
>> It looks to me that PageLRU indicates the page is linked to per-zone lru
>> list, and PageCgroupAcctLRU indicates the page is charged to a memcg and
>> also linked to memcg's private lru list. All of these work nicely when we
>> have both global and private (per-memcg) lru list, but i can not put them
>> together after this patch.
>>
>> Now page is linked to private lru always either memcg or root. While linked
>> to either lru list, the page could be uncharged (like swapcache). No matter
>> what, i am thinking whether or not we can get rid of the AcctLRU bit from pc
>> and use LRU bit only here.
>
> As I said above: if after the commit the page is on the LRU (PageLRU
> set), pc->mem_cgroup's lru stats may or may not include the page, and
> the page may or may not be on the right lruvec.
>
> If someone had the page isolated (reclaim?) while we charge it and put
> it back, the page may either be charged or uncharged at the time of
> putback.

Thank you and this is a good example.

So PageLRU bit is consistent w/ whether or not the page is linked  to
a lru list (root or memcg), and AcctLRU indicates more on the memcg
charge/uncharge.

Here I am trying to summarize the possibilities of different flags of
a page linked to a lru list ( based on the implementation after this
patch series). please help to correct :

root lru:
1. PageLRU, Used, AcctLRU: page charged to root and linked to root lru
list. ( ext: page allocated under root cgroup )

2. PageLRU, !Used, !AcctLRU: page not charged and linked to root lru
list. ( ext: page uncharged before free, or like readahead swapcache)

3. PageLRU, Used, !AcctLRU: page del from root lru before uncharge, or
charged before add to root lru

4. PageLRU, !Used, AcctLRU: page uncharged before del from root lru
(ext: swapcache)

non-root lru:

1. PageLRU, Used, AcctLRU: page charged to memcg and linked to memcg lru list

2. PageLRU, !Used, !AcctLRU: not sure if this is possible

3. PageLRU, Used, !AcctLRU: page del from memcg lru before uncharge,
or charged before add to memcg lru

4. PageLRU, !Used, AcctLRU: page uncharged before del from memcg lru
(ext: swapcache)


>
>        unused: PageLRU is set, but page possibly on the wrong lruvec
>        (root_mem_cgroup's per default, see mem_cgroup_lru_add_list)
>        and not properly accounted for.  We can detect this case by
>        seeing AcctLRU cleared.

This fits the case 2 above.

>
>        used: PageLRU is set, page on the right lruvec and properly
>        accounted.  We can detect this case by seeing that
>        mem_cgroup_lru_add_list() set AcctLRU.

This fits the case 1 above.


Thanks

--Ying

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-15  3:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01  6:25 [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 1/8] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:59   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 16:14       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 14:01           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  9:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-09 16:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 13:12   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-09 13:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 15:48   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 17:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 23:41       ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 23:47         ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-10  0:34           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:48             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11 20:39   ` Ying Han
2011-08-11 21:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:15       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:22         ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  6:08             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 19:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 20:36             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 21:05               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  7:07                 ` Ying Han
2011-08-30 15:14                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-31 22:58                     ` Ying Han
2011-09-21  8:44                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  8:07         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  5:37   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 21:55   ` Ying Han
2011-06-03  5:25     ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10  7:36         ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:57           ` Ying Han
2011-06-16  0:33             ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:45             ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:48         ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:41           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unused soft limit code Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 6/8] vmscan: change zone_nr_lru_pages to take memcg instead of scan control Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:30   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:29   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 7/8] vmscan: memcg-aware unevictable page rescue scanner Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:27   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 21:02     ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 22:01       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 22:19         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 23:15           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-03  5:08           ` Ying Han
2011-06-13  9:42   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 11:18       ` Michal Hocko
2011-07-19 22:47   ` Ying Han
2011-07-20  0:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:28       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:59         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:16   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:24     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:54       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 15:04           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  8:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 20:33   ` Ying Han
2011-08-12  8:34     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08       ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 19:17         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-15  3:01           ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-08-15  1:34       ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  9:39         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 23:52 ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02  0:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-06-09  1:13     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-02  4:05   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:51       ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08  3:45           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08  3:53           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 15:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  3:52               ` Ying Han
2011-06-09  8:35                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 18:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 21:38                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:30                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:31                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:17                           ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:33   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  9:06     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 10:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 12:59         ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-09  1:15           ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-09  8:43             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-13  9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:35   ` Johannes Weiner

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