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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, devel@openvz.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/11] kmem accounting basic infrastructure
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:50:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALWz4iwgnqwq5k_zhpsiiwrj8Y=OkCUg7H96khJWPZScSQE=nw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814162144.GC6905@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Thu 09-08-12 17:01:12, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> This patch adds the basic infrastructure for the accounting of the slab
>> caches. To control that, the following files are created:
>>
>>  * memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes
>>  * memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes
>>  * memory.kmem.failcnt
>>  * memory.kmem.max_usage_in_bytes
>>
>> They have the same meaning of their user memory counterparts. They
>> reflect the state of the "kmem" res_counter.
>>
>> The code is not enabled until a limit is set. This can be tested by the
>> flag "kmem_accounted". This means that after the patch is applied, no
>> behavioral changes exists for whoever is still using memcg to control
>> their memory usage.
>>
>> We always account to both user and kernel resource_counters. This
>> effectively means that an independent kernel limit is in place when the
>> limit is set to a lower value than the user memory. A equal or higher
>> value means that the user limit will always hit first, meaning that kmem
>> is effectively unlimited.
>
> Well, it contributes to the user limit so it is not unlimited. It just
> falls under a different limit and it tends to contribute less. This can
> be quite confusing.  I am still not sure whether we should mix the two
> things together. If somebody wants to limit the kernel memory he has to
> touch the other limit anyway.  Do you have a strong reason to mix the
> user and kernel counters?

The reason to mix the two together is a compromise of the two use
cases we've heard by far. In google, we only need one limit which
limits u & k, and the reclaim kicks in when the total usage hits the
limit.

> My impression was that kernel allocation should simply fail while user
> allocations might reclaim as well. Why should we reclaim just because of
> the kernel allocation (which is unreclaimable from hard limit reclaim
> point of view)?

Some of kernel objects are reclaimable if we have per-memcg shrinker.

> I also think that the whole thing would get much simpler if those two
> are split. Anyway if this is really a must then this should be
> documented here.

What would be the use case you have in your end?

--Ying

> One nit bellow.
>
>> People who want to track kernel memory but not limit it, can set this
>> limit to a very high number (like RESOURCE_MAX - 1page - that no one
>> will ever hit, or equal to the user memory)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
>> CC: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
>> CC: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>> Reviewed-by: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
>> ---
>>  mm/memcontrol.c | 69 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>  1 file changed, 68 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
>> index b0e29f4..54e93de 100644
>> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
>> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> [...]
>> @@ -4046,8 +4059,23 @@ static int mem_cgroup_write(struct cgroup *cont, struct cftype *cft,
>>                       break;
>>               if (type == _MEM)
>>                       ret = mem_cgroup_resize_limit(memcg, val);
>> -             else
>> +             else if (type == _MEMSWAP)
>>                       ret = mem_cgroup_resize_memsw_limit(memcg, val);
>> +             else if (type == _KMEM) {
>> +                     ret = res_counter_set_limit(&memcg->kmem, val);
>> +                     if (ret)
>> +                             break;
>> +                     /*
>> +                      * Once enabled, can't be disabled. We could in theory
>> +                      * disable it if we haven't yet created any caches, or
>> +                      * if we can shrink them all to death.
>> +                      *
>> +                      * But it is not worth the trouble
>> +                      */
>> +                     if (!memcg->kmem_accounted && val != RESOURCE_MAX)
>> +                             memcg->kmem_accounted = true;
>> +             } else
>> +                     return -EINVAL;
>>               break;
>
> This doesn't check for the hierachy so kmem_accounted might not be in
> sync with it's parents. mem_cgroup_create (below) needs to copy
> kmem_accounted down from the parent and the above needs to check if this
> is a similar dance like mem_cgroup_oom_control_write.
>
> [...]
>
>> @@ -5033,6 +5098,7 @@ mem_cgroup_create(struct cgroup *cont)
>>       if (parent && parent->use_hierarchy) {
>>               res_counter_init(&memcg->res, &parent->res);
>>               res_counter_init(&memcg->memsw, &parent->memsw);
>> +             res_counter_init(&memcg->kmem, &parent->kmem);
>>               /*
>>                * We increment refcnt of the parent to ensure that we can
>>                * safely access it on res_counter_charge/uncharge.
>> @@ -5043,6 +5109,7 @@ mem_cgroup_create(struct cgroup *cont)
>>       } else {
>>               res_counter_init(&memcg->res, NULL);
>>               res_counter_init(&memcg->memsw, NULL);
>> +             res_counter_init(&memcg->kmem, NULL);
>>       }
>>       memcg->last_scanned_node = MAX_NUMNODES;
>>       INIT_LIST_HEAD(&memcg->oom_notify);
>> --
>> 1.7.11.2
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-15 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-09 13:01 [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:12   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:42   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 16:49     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-10 17:28       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 17:56         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-10 17:30   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 18:52     ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 18:54   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-13  8:05     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 13:10       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:43   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:02   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  2:38       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-14 16:21   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15  9:33     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 11:12       ` James Bottomley
2012-08-15 12:55         ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:29           ` James Bottomley
2012-08-15 12:39       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 12:53         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:02           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:04             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:26               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:31                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:11                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:47         ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 15:11           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 15:34             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 15:35               ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 17:26                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:11               ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 18:25                 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 19:22                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 18:07             ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 15:19           ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 15:36             ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:01         ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 18:00           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 19:50     ` Ying Han [this message]
2012-08-16 15:25       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  5:58         ` Ying Han
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:07   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:27   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:28     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 18:58       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15  9:18         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 16:38           ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 17:00             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 17:12               ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 19:31                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16  3:37                   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-16  7:47                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-20 13:36               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-20 15:29                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  2:36       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-17  7:04         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 11:00     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-11  5:11   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13  8:07     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13  9:59     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 21:21       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-14 17:25   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15  9:42     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 10:44       ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:09       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:01         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:23           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:27             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16  9:53               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-16  9:57                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16 15:05                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-16 15:22                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 21:50   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22  8:35     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-23  0:07       ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-23  7:51         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 16:33   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-09 16:42     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:33   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:03     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13  8:57       ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-10 17:36   ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13  8:02     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 15:16   ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:08     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:22       ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 13:39         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 13:51         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15  9:24   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  7:02   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  7:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:51   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13  8:01     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  9:00   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17  9:15     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17  9:35       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 10:07         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 10:35           ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 10:36             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  7:54               ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  8:35                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  9:17                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  9:22                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 10:00                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21 10:01                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-22  1:09                     ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22  8:22                       ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-22 23:23                         ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-23  7:55                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-24  5:06                             ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-24  5:23                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 10:39             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-08-21  8:22   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-22  8:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:54   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-21  9:35   ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21  9:40     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 10:57       ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 21:37 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Ying Han
2012-08-20  7:51   ` Glauber Costa

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