From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: don't call mmu_shrinker w/o used_mmu_pages
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:07:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALWz4iwVhg23X06T6HP49PKa8z2_-KRx6f64vYrvsT+KoaKp8A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F91E8CC.5080409@redhat.com>
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 04/20/2012 06:11 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:38:41 -0700
>> Ying Han<yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The mmu_shrink() is heavy by itself by iterating all kvms and holding
>>> the kvm_lock. spotted the code w/ Rik during LSF, and it turns out we
>>> don't need to call the shrinker if nothing to shrink.
>
>
>>> @@ -3900,6 +3905,9 @@ static int mmu_shrink(struct shrinker *shrink,
>>> struct shrink_control *sc)
>>> if (nr_to_scan == 0)
>>> goto out;
>>>
>>> + if (!get_kvm_total_used_mmu_pages())
>>> + return 0;
>>> +
>
>
>> Do we actually know that this patch helps anything? Any measurements? Is
>> kvm_total_used_mmu_pages==0 at all common?
>>
>
> On re-reading mmu.c, it looks like even with EPT or NPT,
> we end up creating mmu pages for the nested page tables.
I think you are right here. So the patch doesn't help the real pain.
My understanding of the real pain is the poor implementation of the
mmu_shrinker. It iterates all the registered mmu_shrink callbacks for
each kvm and only does little work at a time while holding two big
locks. I learned from mikew@ (also ++cc-ed) that is causing latency
spikes and unfairness among kvm instance in some of the experiment
we've seen.
Mike might tell more on that.
--Ying
>
> I have not had the time to look into it more, but it would
> be nice to know if the patch has any effect at all.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-20 23:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-13 22:38 Ying Han
2012-04-14 11:44 ` Hillf Danton
2012-04-16 16:43 ` Ying Han
2012-04-20 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-20 22:53 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-20 23:07 ` Ying Han [this message]
2012-04-21 1:56 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-04-21 2:15 ` Mike Waychison
2012-04-21 2:29 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-04-21 2:48 ` Mike Waychison
2012-04-22 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-22 19:05 ` Eric Northup
2012-04-23 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-22 9:04 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-22 9:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-23 16:40 ` Ying Han
2012-04-23 16:48 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-23 16:57 ` Avi Kivity
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