From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, ligang.bdlg@bytedance.com, mhocko@suse.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH -mm 0/4] mm, security, bpf: Fine-grained control over memory policy adjustments with lsm bpf
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 11:17:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbCxNuSdguRMOWFK_PHvMNkmgh=U9PY6Wjvdk_Uj2=7e+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhT6YmQrvfQRu0N=0tXHD2+vJQU3pTqrryMekZsEQzwqUw@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:32 AM Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 2:35 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Background
> > ==========
> >
> > In our containerized environment, we've identified unexpected OOM events
> > where the OOM-killer terminates tasks despite having ample free memory.
> > This anomaly is traced back to tasks within a container using mbind(2) to
> > bind memory to a specific NUMA node. When the allocated memory on this node
> > is exhausted, the OOM-killer, prioritizing tasks based on oom_score,
> > indiscriminately kills tasks. This becomes more critical with guaranteed
> > tasks (oom_score_adj: -998) aggravating the issue.
> >
> > The selected victim might not have allocated memory on the same NUMA node,
> > rendering the killing ineffective. This patch aims to address this by
> > disabling MPOL_BIND in container environments.
> >
> > In the container environment, our aim is to consolidate memory resource
> > control under the management of kubelet. If users express a preference for
> > binding their memory to a specific NUMA node, we encourage the adoption of
> > a standardized approach. Specifically, we recommend configuring this memory
> > policy through kubelet using cpuset.mems in the cpuset controller, rather
> > than individual users setting it autonomously. This centralized approach
> > ensures that NUMA nodes are globally managed through kubelet, promoting
> > consistency and facilitating streamlined administration of memory resources
> > across the entire containerized environment.
> >
> > Proposed Solutions
> > =================
> >
> > - Introduce Capability to Disable MPOL_BIND
> > Currently, any task can perform MPOL_BIND without specific capabilities.
> > Enforcing CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_NICE could be an option, but this
> > may have unintended consequences. Capabilities, being broad, might grant
> > unnecessary privileges. We should explore alternatives to prevent
> > unexpected side effects.
> >
> > - Use LSM BPF to Disable MPOL_BIND
> > Introduce LSM hooks for syscalls such as mbind(2), set_mempolicy(2), and
> > set_mempolicy_home_node(2) to disable MPOL_BIND. This approach is more
> > flexibility and allows for fine-grained control without unintended
> > consequences. A sample LSM BPF program is included, demonstrating
> > practical implementation in a production environment.
>
> Without looking at the patchset in any detail yet, I wanted to point
> out that we do have some documented guidelines for adding new LSM
> hooks:
>
> https://github.com/LinuxSecurityModule/kernel/blob/main/README.md#new-lsm-hook-guidelines
>
> I just learned that there are provisions for adding this to the
> MAINTAINERS file, I'll be doing that shortly. My apologies for not
> having it in there sooner.
Thanks for your information. I will learn it carefully.
--
Regards
Yafang
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-13 3:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20231112073424.4216-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com>
2023-11-12 16:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-13 3:15 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-13 8:50 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2023-11-13 21:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-14 2:30 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-14 10:15 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 11:59 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-14 16:57 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-15 1:52 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-15 8:45 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-15 9:33 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-15 14:26 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-15 17:09 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 1:41 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-15 17:00 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-16 2:22 ` Yafang Shao
2023-11-12 20:32 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-13 3:17 ` Yafang Shao [this message]
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