From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:40:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbCVj5bi7AgxohoMOjnAr7bPQz5it0wn5NE-eBh+=_BnkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734og9on4.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:05 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:38 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:40 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:02 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> writes:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Background
> >> >> >> > ==========
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In our containerized environment, we have a specific type of container
> >> >> >> > that runs 18 processes, each consuming approximately 6GB of RSS. These
> >> >> >> > processes are organized as separate processes rather than threads due
> >> >> >> > to the Python Global Interpreter Lock (GIL) being a bottleneck in a
> >> >> >> > multi-threaded setup. Upon the exit of these containers, other
> >> >> >> > containers hosted on the same machine experience significant latency
> >> >> >> > spikes.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Investigation
> >> >> >> > =============
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My investigation using perf tracing revealed that the root cause of
> >> >> >> > these spikes is the simultaneous execution of exit_mmap() by each of
> >> >> >> > the exiting processes. This concurrent access to the zone->lock
> >> >> >> > results in contention, which becomes a hotspot and negatively impacts
> >> >> >> > performance. The perf results clearly indicate this contention as a
> >> >> >> > primary contributor to the observed latency issues.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > + 77.02% 0.00% uwsgi [kernel.kallsyms] [k] mmput
> >> >> >> > - 76.98% 0.01% uwsgi [kernel.kallsyms] [k] exit_mmap
> >> >> >> > - 76.97% exit_mmap
> >> >> >> > - 58.58% unmap_vmas
> >> >> >> > - 58.55% unmap_single_vma
> >> >> >> > - unmap_page_range
> >> >> >> > - 58.32% zap_pte_range
> >> >> >> > - 42.88% tlb_flush_mmu
> >> >> >> > - 42.76% free_pages_and_swap_cache
> >> >> >> > - 41.22% release_pages
> >> >> >> > - 33.29% free_unref_page_list
> >> >> >> > - 32.37% free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> > - 31.64% free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> > + 28.65% _raw_spin_lock
> >> >> >> > 1.28% __list_del_entry_valid
> >> >> >> > + 3.25% folio_lruvec_lock_irqsave
> >> >> >> > + 0.75% __mem_cgroup_uncharge_list
> >> >> >> > 0.60% __mod_lruvec_state
> >> >> >> > 1.07% free_swap_cache
> >> >> >> > + 11.69% page_remove_rmap
> >> >> >> > 0.64% __mod_lruvec_page_state
> >> >> >> > - 17.34% remove_vma
> >> >> >> > - 17.25% vm_area_free
> >> >> >> > - 17.23% kmem_cache_free
> >> >> >> > - 17.15% __slab_free
> >> >> >> > - 14.56% discard_slab
> >> >> >> > free_slab
> >> >> >> > __free_slab
> >> >> >> > __free_pages
> >> >> >> > - free_unref_page
> >> >> >> > - 13.50% free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> > - free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> > + 13.44% _raw_spin_lock
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't think your change will reduce zone->lock contention cycles. So,
> >> >> >> I don't find the value of the above data.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > By enabling the mm_page_pcpu_drain() we can locate the pertinent page,
> >> >> >> > with the majority of them being regular order-0 user pages.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023883: mm_page_pcpu_drain: page=0000000035a1b0b7 pfn=0x11c19c72 order=0 migratetyp
> >> >> >> > e=1
> >> >> >> > <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023887: <stack trace>
> >> >> >> > => free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> > => free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> > => free_unref_page_list
> >> >> >> > => release_pages
> >> >> >> > => free_pages_and_swap_cache
> >> >> >> > => tlb_flush_mmu
> >> >> >> > => zap_pte_range
> >> >> >> > => unmap_page_range
> >> >> >> > => unmap_single_vma
> >> >> >> > => unmap_vmas
> >> >> >> > => exit_mmap
> >> >> >> > => mmput
> >> >> >> > => do_exit
> >> >> >> > => do_group_exit
> >> >> >> > => get_signal
> >> >> >> > => arch_do_signal_or_restart
> >> >> >> > => exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> >> >> >> > => syscall_exit_to_user_mode
> >> >> >> > => do_syscall_64
> >> >> >> > => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The servers experiencing these issues are equipped with impressive
> >> >> >> > hardware specifications, including 256 CPUs and 1TB of memory, all
> >> >> >> > within a single NUMA node. The zoneinfo is as follows,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Node 0, zone Normal
> >> >> >> > pages free 144465775
> >> >> >> > boost 0
> >> >> >> > min 1309270
> >> >> >> > low 1636587
> >> >> >> > high 1963904
> >> >> >> > spanned 564133888
> >> >> >> > present 296747008
> >> >> >> > managed 291974346
> >> >> >> > cma 0
> >> >> >> > protection: (0, 0, 0, 0)
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> > pagesets
> >> >> >> > cpu: 0
> >> >> >> > count: 2217
> >> >> >> > high: 6392
> >> >> >> > batch: 63
> >> >> >> > vm stats threshold: 125
> >> >> >> > cpu: 1
> >> >> >> > count: 4510
> >> >> >> > high: 6392
> >> >> >> > batch: 63
> >> >> >> > vm stats threshold: 125
> >> >> >> > cpu: 2
> >> >> >> > count: 3059
> >> >> >> > high: 6392
> >> >> >> > batch: 63
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The pcp high is around 100 times the batch size.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I also traced the latency associated with the free_pcppages_bulk()
> >> >> >> > function during the container exit process:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution
> >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 148 |***************** |
> >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 334 |****************************************|
> >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 33 |*** |
> >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 5 | |
> >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 7 | |
> >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 12 |* |
> >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 30 |*** |
> >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 21 |** |
> >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 15 |* |
> >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 27 |*** |
> >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 84 |********** |
> >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 203 |************************ |
> >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 284 |********************************** |
> >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 327 |*************************************** |
> >> >> >> > 4194304 -> 8388607 : 215 |************************* |
> >> >> >> > 8388608 -> 16777215 : 116 |************* |
> >> >> >> > 16777216 -> 33554431 : 47 |***** |
> >> >> >> > 33554432 -> 67108863 : 8 | |
> >> >> >> > 67108864 -> 134217727 : 3 | |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The latency can reach tens of milliseconds.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Experimenting
> >> >> >> > =============
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction
> >> >> >> > --------------------------------
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The kernel version currently deployed in our production environment is the
> >> >> >> > stable 6.1.y, and my initial strategy involves optimizing the
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> IMHO, we should focus on upstream activity in the cover letter and patch
> >> >> >> description. And I don't think that it's necessary to describe the
> >> >> >> alternative solution with too much details.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction parameter. By increasing the value of
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction, I aim to diminish the batch size during
> >> >> >> > page draining, which subsequently leads to a substantial reduction in
> >> >> >> > latency. After setting the sysctl value to 0x7fffffff, I observed a notable
> >> >> >> > improvement in latency.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution
> >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 120 | |
> >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 365 |* |
> >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 201 | |
> >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 103 | |
> >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 84 | |
> >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 87 | |
> >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 4777 |************** |
> >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 10572 |******************************* |
> >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 13544 |****************************************|
> >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 12723 |************************************* |
> >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 8604 |************************* |
> >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 3659 |********** |
> >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 921 |** |
> >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 122 | |
> >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 5 | |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > However, augmenting vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction can also decrease the
> >> >> >> > pcp high watermark size to a minimum of four times the batch size. While
> >> >> >> > this could theoretically affect throughput, as highlighted by Ying[0], we
> >> >> >> > have yet to observe any significant difference in throughput within our
> >> >> >> > production environment after implementing this change.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Backporting the series "mm: PCP high auto-tuning"
> >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Again, not upstream activity. We can describe the upstream behavior
> >> >> >> directly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Andrew has requested that I provide a more comprehensive analysis of
> >> >> > this issue, and in response, I have endeavored to outline all the
> >> >> > pertinent details in a thorough and detailed manner.
> >> >>
> >> >> IMHO, upstream activity can provide comprehensive analysis of the issue
> >> >> too. And, your patch has changed much from the first version. It's
> >> >> better to describe your current version.
> >> >
> >> > After backporting the pcp auto-tuning feature to the 6.1.y branch, the
> >> > code is almost the same with the upstream kernel wrt the pcp. I have
> >> > thoroughly documented the detailed data showcasing the changes in the
> >> > backported version, providing a clear picture of the results. However,
> >> > it's crucial to note that I am unable to directly run the upstream
> >> > kernel on our production environment due to practical constraints.
> >>
> >> IMHO, the patch is for upstream kernel, not some downstream kernel, so
> >> focus should be the upstream activity. The issue of the upstream
> >> kernel, and how to resolve it. The production environment test results
> >> can be used to support the upstream change.
> >
> > The sole distinction in the pcp between version 6.1.y and the
> > upstream kernel lies solely in the modifications made to the code by
> > you. Furthermore, given that your code changes have now been
> > successfully backported, what else do you expect me to do ?
>
> If you can run the upstream kernel directly with some proxy workloads,
> it will be better. But, I understand that this may be not easy for you.
>
> So, what I really expect you to do is to organize the patch description
> in an upstream centric way. Describe the issue of the upstream kernel,
> and how do you resolve it. Although your test data comes from a
> downstream kernel with the same page allocator behavior.
>
> >>
> >> >> >> > My second endeavor was to backport the series titled
> >> >> >> > "mm: PCP high auto-tuning"[1], which comprises nine individual patches,
> >> >> >> > into our 6.1.y stable kernel version. Subsequent to its deployment in our
> >> >> >> > production environment, I noted a pronounced reduction in latency. The
> >> >> >> > observed outcomes are as enumerated below:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution
> >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 0 | |
> >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 2 | |
> >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 11 | |
> >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 3 | |
> >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 1 | |
> >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 2 | |
> >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 7 | |
> >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 198 |********* |
> >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 530 |************************ |
> >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 824 |************************************** |
> >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 852 |****************************************|
> >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 714 |********************************* |
> >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 389 |****************** |
> >> >> >> > 4194304 -> 8388607 : 143 |****** |
> >> >> >> > 8388608 -> 16777215 : 29 |* |
> >> >> >> > 16777216 -> 33554431 : 1 | |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Compared to the previous data, the maximum latency has been reduced to
> >> >> >> > less than 30ms.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> People don't care too much about page freeing latency during processes
> >> >> >> exiting. Instead, they care more about the process exiting time, that
> >> >> >> is, throughput. So, it's better to show the page allocation latency
> >> >> >> which is affected by the simultaneous processes exiting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm confused also. Is this issue really hard to understand ?
> >> >>
> >> >> IMHO, it's better to prove the issue directly. If you cannot prove it
> >> >> directly, you can try alternative one and describe why.
> >> >
> >> > Not all data can be verified straightforwardly or effortlessly. The
> >> > primary focus lies in the zone->lock contention, which necessitates
> >> > measuring the latency it incurs. To accomplish this, the
> >> > free_pcppages_bulk() function serves as an effective tool for
> >> > evaluation. Therefore, I have opted to specifically measure the
> >> > latency associated with free_pcppages_bulk().
> >> >
> >> > The rationale behind not measuring allocation latency is due to the
> >> > necessity of finding a willing participant to endure potential delays,
> >> > a task that proved unsuccessful as no one expressed interest. In
> >> > contrast, assessing free_pcppages_bulk()'s latency solely requires
> >> > identifying and experimenting with the source causing the delays,
> >> > making it a more feasible approach.
> >>
> >> Can you run a benchmark program that do quite some memory allocation by
> >> yourself to test it?
> >
> > I can have a try.
>
> Thanks!
>
> > However, is it the key point here?
>
> It's better to prove the issue directly instead of indirectly.
>
> > Why can't the lock contention be measured by the freeing?
>
> Have you measured the lock contention after adjusting
> CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX? IIUC, the lock contention will become even
> worse. Smaller CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX helps latency, but it will
> hurt lock contention. I have said it several times, but it seems that
> you don't agree with me. Can you prove I'm wrong with data?
Now I understand the point. It seems we have different understandings
regarding the zone lock contention.
CPU A (Freer) CPU B (Allocator)
lock zone->lock
free pages lock zone->lock
unlock zone->lock alloc pages
unlock zone->lock
If the Freer holds the zone lock for an extended period, the Allocator
has to wait, right? Isn't that a lock contention issue? Lock
contention affects not only CPU system usage but also latency.
--
Regards
Yafang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-11 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-07 9:49 Yafang Shao
2024-07-07 9:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/page_alloc: A minor fix to the calculation of pcp->free_count Yafang Shao
2024-07-10 1:52 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-07 9:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/page_alloc: Avoid changing pcp->high decaying when adjusting CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX Yafang Shao
2024-07-10 1:51 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-10 2:07 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-07 9:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max Yafang Shao
2024-07-10 2:49 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 2:21 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 6:42 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 7:25 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 8:18 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 9:51 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 10:49 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 12:45 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 1:19 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 2:25 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 3:05 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 3:44 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 5:25 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 5:41 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 6:16 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 6:41 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 7:04 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 7:36 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 8:24 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 8:49 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 9:10 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-12 9:24 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-12 9:46 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-15 1:09 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-15 4:32 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-10 3:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 2:25 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 6:38 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 7:21 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 8:36 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 9:40 ` Yafang Shao
2024-07-11 11:03 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-11 12:40 ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2024-07-12 2:32 ` Huang, Ying
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