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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 13:45:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWaar55uTv5q3Ym1KEdQjfgjDfwMM=PPnjb9eV+ASS_ig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+j92EPEwv9O4cX92zJDTyBEz3WtQ2CDHT0KmqJ6bCmGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> * Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> wrote:
>>
>>> > If yes then this could be a significant security feature / usecase for pkeys:
>
> Which CPUs (will) have pkeys?
>
>>> > executable sections of shared libraries and binaries could be mapped with pkey
>>> > access disabled. If I read the Intel documentation correctly then that should
>>> > be possible.
>>>
>>> Agreed.  I've even heard from some researchers who are interested in this:
>>>
>>> https://www.infsec.cs.uni-saarland.de/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/10/nuernberger2014ccs_disclosure.pdf
>>
>> So could we try to add an (opt-in) kernel option that enables this transparently
>> and automatically for all PROT_EXEC && !PROT_WRITE mappings, without any
>> user-space changes and syscalls necessary?
>
> I would like this very much. :)
>
>> Beyond the security improvement, this would enable this hardware feature on most
>> x86 Linux distros automatically, on supported hardware, which is good for testing.
>>
>> Assuming it boots up fine on a typical distro, i.e. assuming that there are no
>> surprises where PROT_READ && PROT_EXEC sections are accessed as data.
>
> I can't wait to find out what implicitly expects PROT_READ from
> PROT_EXEC mappings. :)

There's one annoying issue at least:

mprotect_pkey(..., PROT_READ | PROT_EXEC, 0) sets protection key 0.
mprotect_pkey(..., PROT_EXEC, 0) maybe sets protection key 15 or
whatever we use for this.  What does mprotect_pkey(..., PROT_EXEC, 0)
do?  What if the caller actually wants key 0?  What if some CPU vendor
some day implements --x for real?


Also, how do we do mprotect_pkey and say "don't change the key"?

>
> -Kees
>
> --
> Kees Cook
> Chrome OS Security



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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-01 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 17:49 [PATCH 00/26] [RFCv2] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 03/26] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 04/26] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 02/26] x86, pkeys: Add Kconfig option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 01/26] x86, fpu: add placeholder for Processor Trace XSAVE state Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 06/26] x86, pkeys: PTE bits for storing protection key Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 05/26] x86, pkey: add PKRU xsave fields and data structure(s) Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 19:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 19:58     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 07/26] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 08/26] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 09/26] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 10/26] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:21     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:29         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-23  8:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24  9:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:41       ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-25  7:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25 23:18           ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-26  6:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 22:39               ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28  5:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 17:15     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-28 19:25       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-28 19:32         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 11/26] x86, pkeys: add functions for set/fetch PKRU Dave Hansen
2015-09-22 20:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:22     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 12/26] mm: factor out VMA fault permission checking Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 14/26] x86, pkeys: check VMAs and PTEs for protection keys Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 13/26] mm: simplify get_user_pages() PTE bit handling Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 17/26] x86, pkeys: dump PTE pkey in /proc/pid/smaps Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 15/26] x86, pkeys: optimize fault handling in access_error() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 16/26] x86, pkeys: dump PKRU with other kernel registers Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 20/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm: implement new mprotect_pkey() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 19/26] [NEWSYSCALL] mm, multi-arch: pass a protection key in to calc_vm_flag_bits() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 18/26] x86, pkeys: add Kconfig prompt to existing config option Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 22/26] [HIJACKPROT] mm: Pass the 4-bit protection key in via PROT_ bits to syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 21/26] [NEWSYSCALL] x86: wire up mprotect_key() system call Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 24/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: mask off pkeys bits in mprotect() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 23/26] [HIJACKPROT] x86, pkeys: add x86 version of arch_validate_prot() Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 25/26] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-09-16 17:49 ` [PATCH 26/26] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-09-20  8:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-21  4:34     ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24  9:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-24 19:10         ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-24 19:17           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-25  7:16             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-25  6:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 11:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 20:39             ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 20:45               ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2015-10-02  6:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 17:50                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-03  7:27                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-06 23:28                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07  7:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-16 15:12                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 18:55                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 19:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-21 23:22                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 20:58               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:33               ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:35                 ` Kees Cook
2015-10-01 22:39                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-01 22:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-01 22:56                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  1:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 18:08                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-02  7:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03  6:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-02 11:49                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:58                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-02 12:14                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-03  6:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 22:57                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02  6:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-03  8:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-07 20:24           ` Dave Hansen
2015-10-07 20:39             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-07 20:47               ` Dave Hansen

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