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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Lukasz Anaczkowski <lukasz.anaczkowski@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	harish.srinivasappa@intel.com, lukasz.odzioba@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux VM workaround for Knights Landing A/D leak
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:09:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWMS4YjPLjbP=B31O-PCZUGvGae+PW-Vrtz+ZofLjmdEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2E7DAAC8-7EB5-4F79-BDC5-55C8169F4F78@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Dave Hansen
>>>> <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/14/2016 01:16 PM, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/14/2016 09:47 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>>>>>>> Lukasz Anaczkowski <lukasz.anaczkowski@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>>>>>>>>>> +void fix_pte_leak(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr, pte_t *ptep)
>>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> Here there should be a call to smp_mb__after_atomic() to synchronize with
>>>>>>>> switch_mm. I submitted a similar patch, which is still pending (hint).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> + if (cpumask_any_but(mm_cpumask(mm), smp_processor_id()) < nr_cpu_ids) {
>>>>>>>>>> +         trace_tlb_flush(TLB_LOCAL_SHOOTDOWN, TLB_FLUSH_ALL);
>>>>>>>>>> +         flush_tlb_others(mm_cpumask(mm), mm, addr,
>>>>>>>>>> +                          addr + PAGE_SIZE);
>>>>>>>>>> +         mb();
>>>>>>>>>> +         set_pte(ptep, __pte(0));
>>>>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shouldn't that barrier be incorporated in the TLB flush code itself and
>>>>>>> not every single caller (like this code is)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is insane to require individual TLB flushers to be concerned with the
>>>>>>> barriers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO it is best to use existing flushing interfaces instead of creating
>>>>>> new ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, or make these things a _little_ harder to get wrong.  That little
>>>>> snippet above isn't so crazy that we should be depending on open-coded
>>>>> barriers to get it right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we just add a barrier to mm_cpumask() itself?  That should stop
>>>>> the race.  Or maybe we need a new primitive like:
>>>>>
>>>>> /*
>>>>> * Call this if a full barrier has been executed since the last
>>>>> * pagetable modification operation.
>>>>> */
>>>>> static int __other_cpus_need_tlb_flush(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>>> {
>>>>>       /* cpumask_any_but() returns >= nr_cpu_ids if no cpus set. */
>>>>>       return cpumask_any_but(mm_cpumask(mm), smp_processor_id()) <
>>>>>               nr_cpu_ids;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> static int other_cpus_need_tlb_flush(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>>> {
>>>>>       /*
>>>>>        * Synchronizes with switch_mm.  Makes sure that we do not
>>>>>        * observe a bit having been cleared in mm_cpumask() before
>>>>>        * the other processor has seen our pagetable update.  See
>>>>>        * switch_mm().
>>>>>        */
>>>>>       smp_mb__after_atomic();
>>>>>
>>>>>       return __other_cpus_need_tlb_flush(mm)
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> We should be able to deploy other_cpus_need_tlb_flush() in most of the
>>>>> cases where we are doing "cpumask_any_but(mm_cpumask(mm),
>>>>> smp_processor_id()) < nr_cpu_ids".
>>>>
>>>> IMO this is a bit nuts.  smp_mb__after_atomic() doesn't do anything on
>>>> x86.  And, even if it did, why should the flush code assume that the
>>>> previous store was atomic?
>>>>
>>>> What's the issue being fixed / worked around here?
>>>
>>> It does a compiler barrier, which prevents the decision whether a
>>> remote TLB shootdown is required to be made before the PTE is set.
>>>
>>> I agree that PTEs may not be written atomically in certain cases
>>> (although I am unaware of such cases, except on full-mm flush).
>>
>> How about plain set_pte?  It's atomic (aligned word-sized write), but
>> it's not atomic in the _after_atomic sense.
>
> Can you point me to a place where set_pte is used before a TLB
> invalidation/shootdown, excluding this patch and the fullmm case?
>
> I am not claiming there is no such case, but I am unaware of such
> one. PTEs are cleared on SMP using xchg, and similarly the dirty bit
> is cleared with an atomic operation.
>

Hmm, you may be right.  I still think this is all disgusting, but I
don't have any better ideas.

--Andy

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 15:58 Lukasz Anaczkowski
2016-06-14 16:31 ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-14 16:47 ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-14 16:54   ` Anaczkowski, Lukasz
2016-06-14 17:01   ` [PATCH v2] " Lukasz Anaczkowski
2016-06-14 17:24     ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-14 18:34       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-14 18:54         ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-14 19:19           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-14 20:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-14 20:47               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-14 20:54                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-14 21:02                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-14 21:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-14 21:13                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-14 18:10     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-15 13:12       ` Anaczkowski, Lukasz
2016-06-14 18:38     ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-15 13:12       ` Anaczkowski, Lukasz
2016-06-15 20:04         ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-15 20:10           ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-15 20:26             ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-16 15:14     ` [PATCH v3] " Lukasz Anaczkowski
2016-06-16 16:43       ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-16 20:23       ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-14 17:18   ` [PATCH] " Dave Hansen
2016-06-14 20:16     ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-14 21:37       ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-15  2:20         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-15  2:35           ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-15  2:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-15  2:44               ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-15  3:09                 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-06-15  3:20         ` Nadav Amit
2016-06-14 16:58 ` kbuild test robot
2016-06-14 17:19 ` Dave Hansen
2016-06-15 13:06   ` Anaczkowski, Lukasz
2016-06-14 17:47 ` kbuild test robot

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